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valis2 ([personal profile] valis2) wrote2008-05-07 09:12 pm
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argh!

The n00b eBay customer who left me neutral feedback has now written me an email begging me to leave her positive feedback ASAP because she is being "persecuted" by another seller, who has left her negative feedback and now apparently has a vendetta against her.

Turns out that she left negative fb for that seller--and others. Some of them, in turn, negged and neutralled her. For example, she left neutral fb for seller on the basis that apparently she felt his shipping was too expensive when compared to others' charges. I've been neutralled for the same reason, and all I can say is, YOU BID ON IT, HONEY. She knew what the charges were when she hit that little button.

I think the seller who persecuted her is pissed (I'm piecing this together from experience--she did something similar to me) because she got all of her purchases screwed up, and paid for items and THEN bid on more stuff, which wrecks the ease-of-combined-shipping thing for sellers, let me tell you. She's claiming that he never sent the extra items.

Thank goodness her invoice this week is big, and she's already paid, and I can ship it off to her, hoping that my carefully worded advice will actually do some good. (1: Don't leave neg or neutral fb without contacting the seller first. 2: Be careful what you bid upon.)

You all can imagine the response I wanted to send to her.

(You know, a lot of people have faded from the HP fandom, and entered SGA, Bleach, Twilight...I seem to have entered the eBay fandom. heh.)

ETA: Wow. I was lucky. She negged/neutralled even more people than I thought. Worst was a neg for an item which she decried because it was "ordinary" and poorly described--she claimed that it was stupid to describe it by weight instead of size.

The description was actually perfect--it described weight AND size. Sure, it wasn't a great item, which I could tell from the pic, but the vendor did absolutely NOTHING wrong--there was NO misinformation whatsoever--and it is not the vendor's fault at all.

One of the other negs she gave was to an 8000+ fb vendor, who replied, calling her a "filthy mongrel," which made me laugh like an idjit.
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[identity profile] alabastard.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Draco is My ebay connection, I haven't the time to go on there or the patience, but he knows his way around it and we find some really great stuff on there, even Malfoys like a deal ;-)

Stupid morons that this woman stand to ruin a good thing for everyone. I hope she gets called out for good.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
You know what is a hilarious idea--you having an eBay account, and using it for evil. You know, leaving hilarious feedback for people about being filthy Muggles and stuff.

I know I would laugh.

Have you ever found items for your cosplaying through eBay?
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[identity profile] alabastard.livejournal.com 2008-05-09 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
hmmm, that makes it sound... almost .. dare I say... fun?

[identity profile] scatteredlogic.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Good grief, the woman sounds like a nut!

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
She's really new, and she has no idea that the feedback system isn't for her to personally describe every nuance of the transaction.

She keeps bidding on total crap, too. She's clearly inexperienced, poor thing.

[identity profile] scatteredlogic.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. Then it sounds as if she's about to learn some lessons the hard way.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Best feedback? She got totally indignant about some item being marked as "antique," when what the seller probably meant was "antiqueD," and there is quite a difference, LOL.

Anyone who has been in the industry for more than a month knows that the item in question is so definitely not antique. lulz

[identity profile] pennswoods.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
What is she, fucking 12 years old? Is it possible on e-bay to refuse to sell to someone based on their stupidity?

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
She describes in detail what she didn't like about each thing--it's absolutely crazy. And then sometimes she'll make a negative comment, and then "correct" it by leaving another remark underneath it saying, "I guess I was wrong, but it seemed like it was too expensive" which is not any comfort to a seller, let me tell you.

That she's negging 8000+ feedback sellers is absolutely astonishing. She really is clueless.

[identity profile] ook.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
And these are the types of Buyers that eBay wants to protect! Be VERY careful about combining orders -- she might claim that she never got the 2nd order 'cause there is no DC for it and then she can legally do a chargeback (and she will win). If you have not shipped yet, send the 2 orders separately.

Has she already left her feedback? If so, the neg away. Problem is, eBay may go and REMOVE those well-deserved Negs and Neut to "make buyers happy."

WELCOME TO THE NEW EBAY!

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
IN NEW EBAY CUSTOMER BUY YOU!

Fortunately, she's left fb for the old (multi-order) stuff, and the new order is a single order. Thank goodness!

Also, she waaaay overbid on something, which really made my auctions this week worthwhile, so she does have her good points.

[identity profile] celisnebula.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
*shakes head*

Ebay is my boss man's new obsession. He's been buying camera and computer stuff... fixing them up and then selling them on ebay. He's made a goodly profit (or it would be if he'd just stop buying more crap).

I'm still into HP... but my fandoms have always been diverse and varied, and lately Doctor Who has been my big love.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
EBay becomes an addiction, apparently. I now have two different seller accounts. And I love the thrill of it! When something sells well, I jump for joy.

I remember watching a lot of Doctor Who--great show. I cannot bring myself to watch the new shoe because I'll totally get sucked in, I just know it!

[identity profile] celisnebula.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I can see getting sucked in.

I've only one account. Right now I'm selling the flash drive I bought last weekend because I found the one I lost. I'll be happy to get what I paid for it.

My boss on the other hand has a buyer and a seller account. He's been all geeky cause he's old school cameras have been selling like hot cakes, along with the film for them. He's like a kid in a candy store. He buys the camera, fixes it, and then sells it.

And the new Who is so addictive - and then when the actors from the HP movies are on, it's like a huge geek fest for me.

[identity profile] artystone.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That's good news. I have a bunch of 35 mm cameras and bits that I have every intention of listing on ebay to get rid of...one day.

[identity profile] melusinahp.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Sigh. The feedback system doesn't really work, does it? You daren't leave negative feedback even when it's deserved because you'll get it back yourself.

She sounds like a very silly person. Who repeatedly makes the same mistake without learning from it?

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And starting very soon--this month--sellers will no longer be able to leave neg or neutral fb! Positive only! Which begs the question--why call it feedback? Why even have feedback? They should just have an automated compliment dispenser.

She emailed me again and explained part of the situation--suffice it to say, she is a total n00b and bid on a really moronic item which was a bit unclear but so totally far from what she thought it was that I had to laugh and laugh.

(The picture the seller provided was of a mold and the item that made the mold. The description was "[X item] mold" and she thought that you won the [X item] in the auction, NOT the mold! ahahahaha! She thought that [X item] had been made from the mold, when in fact it is an incredibly common, handcrafted crap cheapo item that you can get anywhere, and to think that someone would have used a mold to make it is laughable at best.

Imagine a Pez dispenser being used to make a mold, and is displayed next to the mold, and then someone thinks that the Pez dispenser was handcrafted from the mold and is the auction item!

Also, the last item in the auction title was "mold" and the description said ITEM not ITEMS--to me, the buyer was n00bish and didn't really pay attention.

[identity profile] iibnf.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Neg her! Pleeeeeeeeeeeease neg her! On behalf of all other ebay sellers, I'm begging you to neg her! Filthy mongrel.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha!!

She left followup comments on the feedback and the seller returned to say, "This is eBay, not Wal-Mart!" and called her a filthy mongrel again! I nearly died.

[identity profile] jaelle-n-gilla.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
*prrrrrft* I'd give her negatie feedback and tell her she can get rid of it by mutual consent (there is this policy on ebay, right?). Then I'd probably ban her from bidding.
These people are just not worth the trouble.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling that she's starting to learn her lesson--the first two pages of fb that she's left are full of negs and neutrals, but everything since has been positive.

The problem is, she was taken in by horrible auctions, and then thought that the fb system was for honestly describing the transaction, which is the literal meaning for this system--but not how it works in real life.

[identity profile] artystone.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
ebay troll.

I wouldn't even have responded to her. I'd have just shipped her stuff and hope to never see/hear from her again.

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well, she had another big order and I'm not above hoping that she'll buy more. ha!

Clearly she's starting to figure things out--the first two pages of her fb list neutrals and negs, but the next eight pages are positives only.

[identity profile] ook.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, add her to your blocked bidders list ASAP!!!!

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
She emailed me again--read my response above if you want to hear how n00by she is.

Good thing is, I think she's figuring it out. Her first two pages of fb include the negs and neutrals, but then the next eight pages are all positive.

I do want to send her emails full of advice in all caps, honestly, but since she's calmed down a bit (and bid upon and paid for a big order, which seems to be going well), I'm hoping that the n00bishness wears off and she begins to understand the system.

I've traded a few emails with her at this point, and I think she's just clueless, and might eventually turn into a better buyer.
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[identity profile] ldybastet.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man! *hugs* Sounds like there are wanky people in Ebay fandom too! *g*

I guess I'm guilty of wandering into Bleach. ;-)

[identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com 2008-05-08 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
EBay fandom has the worst wank!! ahhah!

And wander away--I think everyone is. We should all follow our fannish hearts! ;)