Y'know...

Mar. 11th, 2006 01:36 pm
valis2: Stone lion face (Default)
[personal profile] valis2
When your characters can instantly teleport from place to place, you end up having to create lots of limits.

I remember someone going through the books and trying to find out if you needed a wand to Apparate, but obviously the lesson in HBP gives us the idea that you don't need one.

Which leads me to this. At the Shrieking Shack incident in PoA, Lupin is tied up by Snape, right? Why couldn't he Apparate? Or perhaps he couldn't because the ropes would go with him. Hmm. I mean, the Shack isn't part of Hogwarts, it's part of Hogsmeade, and therefore not subject to the whole Anti-Apparition thing. Still, at the very least, Sirius could have Apparated behind Snape and hit him on the head or something.

It must be that it takes a moment, I think, and therefore the wizard/witch would be vulnerable. Otherwise everybody would be Apparating all the time like Dragonball Z.

Okay, got it out of my system.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-11 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zoepaleologa.livejournal.com
Cos he was seekritly crushing on Snape and didn't want to leave him...

*Disapparates. Splinches - cackling is contra-indicated*

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-11 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
hahahah!!

Yes, exactly. :)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-11 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julian-black.livejournal.com
Why couldn't he Apparate? Or perhaps he couldn't because the ropes would go with him.

If his clothes go with him, I would imagine the ropes would, too. And he was lying on the floor--is it possible to Apparate lying down?

Like most magic, I suspect Apparating requires a certain amount of concentration, even for people who've been doing it for a long time. And Sirius may not have wanted to take his attention away from Snape, who was going batshit--after all, there were three kids and Remus in trouble, and Pettigrew about to get away. And if he'd shown any sign that he was about to do so, Snape would have hexed him.

Of course, none of this explains why Snape didn't just immobilize Sirius in some way. I mean, come on, Severus--you can taunt your old enemy all you like, but for crying out loud, tie him up, first...

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Okay, and now I'm wondering why Peter didn't Apparate. That would have been pretty damned easy.

I think that there is some split second of time involved, and that a wizard with a wand drawn on them just wouldn't be able to Apparate before the other wizard did something.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
You know, if you overthink these things, the whole plot just falls completely apart.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Hell yes. My brain hurts.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen-deben.livejournal.com
Erm, does the lesson in HBP imply that you don't need a wand to Apparate? I was under the impression that you still do.

And one thing the lesson did imply is that you need to spin around (Dumbles did a spin in the final battle of OotP too). If Lupin was tied up, I don't think he could do the little spin.

Of course, it seems like people only spin part of the time when they Apparate. The books don't describe Apparation very consistently.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
The books don't describe Apparation very consistently.

Yes, exactly my problem.

I only read HBP once, and my mother still has it, so I can't look up the lesson, damnit. But still, I've just come to my own conclusion and I'm sticking to it.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
Of course, it seems like people only spin part of the time when they Apparate. The books don't describe Apparation very consistently.

Part of the time? More like never. Not that I've done it, or plan to, but I'd bet real money that if you looked through every book at every instance of apparation, until that lesson no one in any previous book has spun around to apparate.
The whirl you mention by DD was just his flamboyant style. Like in his most excellent exit via Fawkes tail earlier in the same book.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-12 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yes, it's part of that "consistency" with which she writes the books...heh.

I think that she just can't keep it all straight, and we just have to go with the best interpretation, I suppose. After all, it's not like this is bringing about world peace. ;)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-16 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillieweed.livejournal.com
After all, it's not like this is bringing about world peace. ;)

It's not?
Well perhaps we can hope for harsher penalties for parole violators, Stan.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-14 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenakt.livejournal.com
Interesting thoughts, at the very least. I've seen it portrayed in fanfic in many ways, especially when it involves the summoning from the Dark Mark. I've seen wands and I've seen wandless.

I figure like other things it would depend upon your skill. Some might find it easy and there might be those who splinch themselves all of the time and restrict themselves to the floo.

Heh. Wouldn't that be an embarrassing thing to be taunted about... In Remus' case that could have been a good thing were it true; imagine he was so expert that he could Apparate as a werewolf? Problem there with the Shrieking Shack not holding him in any more...

I'm rambling now. :)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-03-15 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I think JKR seems to be saying, here are the typical means of transport, Floo, broom, Apparition, Portkey, and every witch or wizard ends up with a favorite method.

Remus Apparating as a Werewolf? *shivers*

Profile

valis2: Stone lion face (Default)
valis2

March 2011

S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 45
6 7 8 910 1112
13 14 1516 17 18 19
20212223242526
2728293031  

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags