General wah

Sep. 6th, 2007 03:24 pm
valis2: Stone lion face (Harvardlion2)
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I am catching up on the LJ flist, and I'm getting sadder and sadder.

I knew already that the HP fandom would be endangered by the end of the series, but now it's fragmented as well, and I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around having multiple journals. I'm a control freak, as you all know, and I hate the idea of cross-posting, but I also hate the idea of not cross-posting, and I hate the idea of having one main journal, and I hate the idea of having journal-specific entries, and I just feel like I'm watching my internet journaling experience take a nose dive.

Also, I find the idea that HP's parent corporations are going to put the smackdown on slash very chilling. (I can't remember where I read the entry now, damnit.)

*glooms about*

ETA: Oh, and this bit about everyone defriending LJ people so they don't have to read multiple entries? Understandable, but... *glooms even more*
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(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah.

that was me, saying amen to that

Date: 2007-09-06 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
Why LJ logged me out? I don't know.

I agree with you.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Even the anonymous agree with me.

Re: that was me, saying amen to that

Date: 2007-09-06 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
*grins* That's happened to me before. In fact, IJ seems to really like logging me out quite a bit.

*hugs* I really hope that this gets cleared up at some point, but I'm not holding my breath. And there are friends on LJ for whom this is not even an issue, so I'm divided completely now, forevah, it seems.

Re: that was me, saying amen to that

Date: 2007-09-06 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
The weird thing is, it could wind up being everyone's issue--or not an issue at all, anymore. It kind of depends on who decides to harass which LJ users. All kind of wait and see.

I think if people want to have an easier-to-read flist, they should use a reading filter rather than defriending.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josanpq.livejournal.com
I hear you! I'm sadden too and once the school year begins, I barely have time to keep up to date with ONE journal, never mind two or three. Sigh. I read LJ once a day and wander over to IJ when I think of it or have the time. I'm staying here until someone sets up a safe and secure and stable site.

Re: that was me, saying amen to that

Date: 2007-09-06 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
I agree with the use of filters instead of defriending. Also, what if someone forgot to crosspost and you miss a post because they forgot?

I am checking lj with frightening frequency, but IJ every few days. There's not as much activity over there as continues to be over here.

(I love the anonymous reply. It was aptly spooky.)

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parseltonguepen.livejournal.com
HP's Parent corporation is going to try and smother slash?? Where did you hear that? If you can find out, I'd be much obliged...

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Even when we have a safe/secure/stable site, some of my LJ friends won't move; they're not fandom-oriented, so no matter what I do, it's already split...hence the whining! *laughs*

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Oh dear. It was on my flist, um...let me see if I can find it...

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jen-deben.livejournal.com
*nods*

What I've found depressing is that about half my flist decided they hated Deathly Hallows. Their posts on HP now centre on how much they hated book 7, how disappointed they are in JKR, and the glorification of AU fic that rewrites book 7 the way they wished it had been written.

Which I can respect, because I respect their opinions. However, I liked the book. There is now no conversation about HP that I can have with half my HP buddies. *pout* I miss them!

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parseltonguepen.livejournal.com
*waits*

I'm really surprised they would, after all this time?

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Date: 2007-09-06 08:56 pm (UTC)
morganmuffle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] morganmuffle
There isn't going to be a crackdown on HP slash, or at least not without one hell of a fuss. They tried that once when they sent out C&D letters but fandom did as they said and put up age notices and then JKR linked to a site with slash on it and they're really going to struggle now.

Which is not to say we're safe but yeah, that's not one to panic about too much I think.

It is driving me slowly crazy that if I check my LJ, GJ and JF flists I end up with some posts three times.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 08:59 pm (UTC)
ext_6866: (Sigh.  Monet.)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've been cross-posting and feeling weird about it, but I can't ever remember to check the other journals.:-/

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:05 pm (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (HP - rocks fall)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
Wow, when you sum up the last few months so accurately, it really is kind of depressing. I started crossposting but the truth is that if I post during the day from work it's just too much effort to post three individual times. And 99% of my list is still on LJ, so now I kind of feel like the people on IJ are getting short attention from me since I don't check it as much and I don't post there as much. So, I dunno. I think I might actually go ahead and stop posting elsewhere and just use those journals for commenting.

And you know what really gets me? Snupin Santa is going to be ALL on IJ this year, which I didn't know when I signed up (it wasn't announced until a few days ago), and I'm actually really unhappy about it. I'm not duplicating all my fic over there in my personal journal, and I kind of hate the idea of having just one piece sort of hanging out somewhere else. Then again, I have a few random fics archived in odd places just hanging out, so I guess I can't complain (I don't really like that, either, but I archived those fics because at the time I was pushed to by various influences and I still kind of think those reasons are valid, but I'm just uncomfortable about not having all my reviews in one place and control over my fics and so on).

I don't know...

And yeah, I have to say the same as someone above, that it's really sad to me to see how so many of the people on my flist suddely hated DH or now do lots of Tonks-bashing and have all these fannish opinions that I can't get behind, and there's no way to have a conversation about that without pissing people off. So my discussion of HP has dropped waaaay off. :/

But you're back! And you're so sane! *clings*

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I know, I was too. I'm still looking, but I've been through about 100 LJs just today... :(

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Finally. (http://tjwritter.livejournal.com/8909.html)

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
It's such a crazy thing, isn't it? I really expected some sort of incredible dirge, some sort of impressive funeral celebration--like an exuberant wake--and all I found, for the most part, was, "Thank goodness for AU."

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvadin.livejournal.com
Relax! Eventually everything will settle down. Those who tend to be involved in the more 'red-flag' issues like graphically depicted artwork or chan or other topics that make the general populace go ?!? are migrating over to IJ. Those who hate big-business bureaucracy are migrating to IJ in protest over 6A's corporate policies and recent treatment of fandom. However, I suspect that most people will stay on LJ for the foreseeable future - it's convenient, it's familiar, and like the real-life situation where one gets in a new landlord who enforces rules of no loud parties after 10pm, most of us tenants tend to learn to adapt rather than go through the effort of migrating to new digs.

Yes, there will be increased crossposting now that we're dealing with multiple journals. But we already have people who crosspost between communities on LJ so what's the real difference?

As to the rumor that the HP parent corporations are going to put the smackdown on slash, it appears to be just that - an unsubstantiated rumor. I saw the comment that I believe you're referring to, and nowhere else in any of the subsequent threads could I find any further information, only lots of wild speculation.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm really hoping that she doesn't crack down. Seriously. As soon as that happens, a lot of fen will head for ze hills, especially considering the LJ fuss and the end-of-series fuss.

I'm going crazy too--I can't help but read four flists now, and I'm starting to really be disturbed by the fragmenting of the fen.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parseltonguepen.livejournal.com
Yay! But - I can't see the entry :( I think it's friends-only?

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm just despairing here. A whole section of my life, one full of fun and wonder and insanity--it's all disappearing. Woe!

(Oh noes! Emo!valis!)

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 09:37 pm (UTC)
ext_35366: (Default)
From: [identity profile] alabastard.livejournal.com
It's sad, and I have no intention of jumping ship, as I already am pressed for time maintaining this one. I wish the art and stories were all at a nice archiving site so I could go to them, as I seldom read fic as it comes up on my flist, just don't have that kind of time. Anyway, I hope it does blow over, IJ strikes me as a very transitory thing...

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribbulus-ink.livejournal.com
Actually, you aren't going to have one piece hanging out on IJ; you're going to have it on the Snupin Santa website, which is where everything will be uploaded this year (which I've said in posts more than once), along with all art and some stories from 2005 and 2006. I'm using IJ for notification purposes only, not hosting/posting purposes.

I realize it's not going to make everyone happy, but considering there are people who have requested Marauders Era smut, I'd rather move the exchange off LJ where I won't feel compelled to f-lock posts that link to underage art/stories or risk losing the journal and everything that's been posted with it in the past 2 years.

(no subject)

Date: 2007-09-06 10:23 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Pensive)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Blech.

I started cross-posting, but I find that half of the time I just forget to use Semagic -_-. But even if I do cross-post, my IJ is pretty dead - I have a flist of 30 people there, as opposed to 190 watchers here! It's like starting all over again. Some five people that I like very much are posting exclusively at IJ now, but I can't keep up with two flists (that partially overlap); GJ I've already given up on entirely as it's even deader than IJ. [livejournal.com profile] sylvadin may say that everything's going on at IJ now, but that seems to be only the case for the smut-minded among us; if you're not a member of all the smut-specific communities, there's almost nothing over there :(. What I feared, has happened: us poor gen people have been cut off from the rest of fandom. I think it's a shame.

As for DH: I'm sorry. I'm one of the bashers - never thought I would be; but I can't honestly like the book ;_;.
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