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I haven't talked about this much yet, but Husband and I are going to attempt to buy a house, either this month or next month.

The house we are hoping to buy is Husband's grandmother's house. It's in a not-so-suburban area, where you can still find farms and stuff, but it's right next to an affluent area that's starting to overspill into it. It's one of the few places in Oakland County where development can still happen.

The price is terrific, though it's still kind of high in comparison to our budget, but it's the last piece of the original family farm that's in family hands, and they want to keep it this way.

The house is an eighties-style ranch, and the layout is long and divided, just like most houses from that decade. However, it was built in 1992, which is really new, probably the newest house we'd ever be able to afford. It has three bedrooms, two and a half bathrooms.

The great things about this? Well, the price is fabulous. And because she is moving into an independent living complex, she's downsizing, which means she's leaving all sorts of things behind...a tractor, garden tools, a dining room set, a bedroom set for the guest bedroom, desks, entertainment center, a largish TV, etc. Most of the stuff first-time homebuyers have to buy--like weed killer--are already in the garage. Plus, she's prepaid the garbage pickup until next August. Stuff like that. It has a brand-new high-efficiency furnace/central air unit. The roof is brand-new as well.

Also, it was partially designed by Husband's grandfather, who was a civil engineer. Hence, it has lots of great features. All of the doorways are extra-wide. It has a very large septic tank. Everything was very well maintained (while he was alive, at any rate, but she's done a very good job as well).

Other bonuses...let's see. There's an enclosed sun porch, with windows, on a cement slab. A full walkout basement. An attached garage. A shed. A compost pile. Crocks to grow herbs in. Bird feeders.

She has a truly awesome backup generator system that runs on natural gas. It's terrific.

And the view of the backyard...well, let's just say there's a pond, and it's quite pretty and peaceful. The master bedroom is going to be the office, so we can look out at it and think happy thoughts while we work on our things.

Drawbacks? Well water, which I remember from my youth. A septic tank, because it's not an area with city hookup. The area isn't very developed--it's definitely out of get-a-cappucino-at-midnight range and back into the chain-sawing-after-dark range. The internet will most likely have to be from satellite. It's right off a main road (though there isn't a lot of traffic). There might be family obligations as well, but hopefully I'll be able to pick which ones. And...OMG. Mortgage. I just don't know if I'm ready for this. If it weren't for my huge debt, this would be such a no-brainer, but it isn't. I'm totally scared to death. Then again, who isn't, when faced with this?

Send good vibes our way if you can.
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Date: 2008-10-18 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kakiphony.livejournal.com
Many, many, MANY good vibes are headed your way. I am so excited for you! Pictures!

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you so much, sweetie! *giant hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ziasudra-fic.livejournal.com
Sounds very exciting! And seems like you've definitely thought through the process, which is very important when it comes to homebuying in general, but especially important nowadays.

Are there any programs for (first-time) homebuyers in your area? I know in NY, there are various down payment assistance programs as well as some that help you fund the partial cost of a home.

Are you planning to have the house inspected/appraised? That would be an important piece of the homebuying process too, particularly when it comes to knowing the house's value when negotiating a mortgage with the bank. And since at least you (I don't know about your husband) are on a self-employed income schedule, it might be worth fully exploring your options before settling on a mortgage with mediocre terms. If both of you are self-employed and you must do a stated income mortgage, then unfortunately the current housing market climate isn't going to work in your favor -- but I'm sure you can work something out.

The HUD.gov site might be a good place to gather resources. Especially if you're amenable to using a housing counseling agency (most services should be free or only charging a nominal fee), it will make it easier for you to know what sort of programs in your state are available for first-time homebuyers.

Good luck! And when you do move into the house, I'd love to see any pictures :D

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Are there any programs for (first-time) homebuyers in your area? I know in NY, there are various down payment assistance programs as well as some that help you fund the partial cost of a home.

Fortunately for us, the grandmother seems willing to help us with the down payment, and I think that it will all work out.

Are you planning to have the house inspected/appraised?

Yes, that's going to be happening on Monday, and I'm really crossing my fingers that it all goes well!

And since at least you (I don't know about your husband) are on a self-employed income schedule, it might be worth fully exploring your options before settling on a mortgage with mediocre terms. If both of you are self-employed and you must do a stated income mortgage, then unfortunately the current housing market climate isn't going to work in your favor -- but I'm sure you can work something out.

We will probably have the mortgage done in his name only, because my credit, while good, is too scary deep for a mortgage, and I'll only hinder it.

Thank you so much for the links!

And I'll definitely have pics up when it all goes down. :)

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
Alltogether, that sounds fabulous!

*sends good vibes*

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
It's really the opportunity of a lifetime. I mean, I would have been very happy with a condo, but if we can get this...wow!

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cordelia_v
This sounds like a marvelous deal for you. The stuff she's leaving behind alone is going to make it much easier to meet the mortgage payments, bc you won't have to spend money setting up housekeeping.

I know the mortgage seems daunting; wait 'til you see the closing (which is a ritual not for the faint-hearted). But all mortgages are that way, to start with. You almost always buy the best house you can imagine affording. But if it's a fixed-rate mortgage (which I STRONGLY advise), then the payment stays the same forever, while your income usually goes up, at least as much as inflation, one hopes. And then ten years down the line, you look up one day and realize that the monthly payment is now quite manageable, because time and inflation have shrunk down the fixed monthly payment into something you can afford.

You'll see. And beyond that, it just sounds like a lovely place to live. I'm happy for you!

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
This sounds like a marvelous deal for you. The stuff she's leaving behind alone is going to make it much easier to meet the mortgage payments, bc you won't have to spend money setting up housekeeping.

Oh, yeah. I cannot believe how lucky we are. I mean, I knew that I had enough furniture for a house already, and enough of the side things--dishes, towels, etc.--but to have all of this stuff left for us, to not have to purchase rakes and trowels, well...it's incredibly fantastic.

I know the mortgage seems daunting; wait 'til you see the closing (which is a ritual not for the faint-hearted). But all mortgages are that way, to start with.

Yes, that's what I keep saying to myself. "Everyone goes through this. Everyone has sticker shock at first."

You almost always buy the best house you can imagine affording. But if it's a fixed-rate mortgage (which I STRONGLY advise), then the payment stays the same forever, while your income usually goes up, at least as much as inflation, one hopes. And then ten years down the line, you look up one day and realize that the monthly payment is now quite manageable, because time and inflation have shrunk down the fixed monthly payment into something you can afford.

*crosses fingers* Yes, I'm hoping that this all works out and that we can afford it. I very much hope so. Husband is going to be switching careers at some point, and that makes me a little frightened, but still...

You'll see. And beyond that, it just sounds like a lovely place to live. I'm happy for you!

It's wonderful, honestly. It's a place we can grow in. The basement is big, and if we are able to have children then I'll remodel the basement and use that for the business stuff.

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rickfan37.livejournal.com
It sounds like a great deal. Good luck!

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
It definitely is a phenomenal deal. There are other aspects to it--she's going to pay for the carpeting to be replaced, among other things--so it's the deal of the century, and we are absolutely delighted.

On the other hand, it's truly one of the saddest things--she loved the house, and this is the land where her family has been--where she was born--and it's truly a sad thing to see her, the matriarch, going off to a little apartment.

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svartalfur.livejournal.com
*sends lots of good vibes*

Sounds absolutely fantastic. And a pond? Must be really beautiful! I hope you'll post some pictures ... :D

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Date: 2008-10-18 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
The pond is so awesome. It has its own varmint swimming around in it and everything! I love it already. *crosses fingers*

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:13 pm (UTC)
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Sending WAY good vibes, but you really need to snatch this one up. The property value will only go up from here, and it's a buyer's market. You're walking into something you KNOW is well-taken-care of, and the little things like well water and septic probably won't last forever if developers keep moving into the area. It's just about as choice a deal as you could wish for -- go for it! I'm sending good thoughts and vibes your way. Go you! :-D

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I just can't believe we'll have central air and a new roof and a glassed in porch--and wow. I mean, this is amazing.

*hugs* I hope it all works out and a bank will give us a mortgage!

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slave4severus.livejournal.com
The house sounds amazing and congrats that you are buying a reliable house, from family no less, that has prospects of gaining value in the future. Please, please, take pictures! I would love to see the pond!

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I will definitely be taking pics! Thank you so much for the well-wishing! :)

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufus.livejournal.com
ooooh, house!

may the Force be with you!

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
*crosses fingers* I hope so!!

Thank you!

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cactus-wren.livejournal.com
How exciting! It's very scary buying a new house, but well worth it in the end. This one sounds like a terrific deal, I'm so happy for you! You *must* let me know your new address if when you get it so I can update my address book!

*sending good vibes!*

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
This is so so so scary--but I am hoping that the longterm benefits will outweigh the initial frantic franticness. ;)

*hugs*

I will definitely send you the new address! *more hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickofthedark.livejournal.com
Sounds awewsome! =)

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Date: 2008-10-18 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
eee! I hope so! It isn't anything super amazing, it's just a house--it doesn't have the character that some older houses have--but it's just so nice and it's a larger house than I ever though we could get...

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alabastard.livejournal.com
Sounds like a great opportunity, and anything worth doing is scary, if not everyone would be doing it. It is a great opportunity to make your own.

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I think you're right, it's a great opportunity, and I'm more afraid of not taking it than taking it. ;)

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lewlinx.livejournal.com
Here´s hoping everything works out as best as expected for you guys!

Lots of possitive energy and thoughts on this coming milestone!

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
eee! I'm so freaking out, but it will be worth it, I think, once the dust settles.

*hugs* Thank you so much!!

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kaiz.livejournal.com
Wow, what exciting news! :-)

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
eep! Exciting and thrilling and SCARY OMG. :)

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Date: 2008-10-18 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catyah.livejournal.com
Congratulations!! Getting a house is one of the best investments that my husband and I have ever made.

And it WAS totally scary, and sometimes it STILL feels totally scary (we need to have WHAT repaired, now?) But it sounds like you're totally getting the deal of the century, and I'm very happy for you both.

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Congratulations!! Getting a house is one of the best investments that my husband and I have ever made.

See, this is what I need to hear. Thank you!

And it WAS totally scary, and sometimes it STILL feels totally scary (we need to have WHAT repaired, now?) But it sounds like you're totally getting the deal of the century, and I'm very happy for you both.

I'm so frightened about stepping into that particular problem--but in the long run, I think we'll be happy there. *hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvadin.livejournal.com
Without question, sending the good vibes your way. Also lighting a candle to Fortune and Fate in hopes that they may aid your project.

Meanwhile...

Remember to breathe ('cause you'll likely be too hyped to relax for a while ;-)

Also remember the medicinal powers of chocolate - administered liberally.

Yes, mortgages 'feel' scary - but you don't build home equity by renting an apartment.

*hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Without question, sending the good vibes your way. Also lighting a candle to Fortune and Fate in hopes that they may aid your project.

You are so wonderful and sweet, and it is so appreciated, let me tell you!!!

Remember to breathe ('cause you'll likely be too hyped to relax for a while ;-)

You know me all too well. *grins*

Also remember the medicinal powers of chocolate - administered liberally.

Am eating some right now! OM NOM NOM!!

Yes, mortgages 'feel' scary - but you don't build home equity by renting an apartment.

I just have to keep thinking that. I have to keep thinking that this is the best possible move forward for us...

*giant hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joanwilder.livejournal.com
Good vibes (except for your history with ponds): I just have this thing about family homesteads and how much it means to keep them in the family. It sounds beautiful, if you tend to be a country person, and I get the impression that you are. You'd need a mortgage no matter where you'd buy, and well-water and a septic tank--much of America has these. It sounds like it has so much character, and the fact that his grandmother's willing to help you with the down-payment.

I'm a pushover. The sun porch alone would've probably done me in.

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Good vibes (except for your history with ponds)

ahahah!! Yes, now I'll have my very own Severus Storage Tank, lol.

It sounds beautiful, if you tend to be a country person, and I get the impression that you are.

I'm a suburbs girl, but because I was raised in the edge of the suburbs, I totally understand this sort of area, and I know that it's going to be getting more developed soon enough, and I think it will be just fine. We're still close enough to "town" to be able to do the things we want.

You'd need a mortgage no matter where you'd buy, and well-water and a septic tank--much of America has these.

Yes, exactly. At least we won't have city water and sewer bills just yet. The water softener is new and works well, even.

It sounds like it has so much character, and the fact that his grandmother's willing to help you with the down-payment.

Yes, she is so incredibly generous I am beside myself. I'm not used to this--my grandmother is kind of opposite. I mean, she has moments of generosity, but nothing like this. This is like a whirlwind of generosity.

I'm a pushover. The sun porch alone would've probably done me in.

And in MI, it means defense from the mosquitoes! I'm so excited!!

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Date: 2008-10-18 11:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] todayiamadaisy
Oh, good luck!

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Thank you so much!!! *hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gmonkey42.livejournal.com
*good vibes good vibes*

It sounds great! I hope everything goes smoothly!

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Aw, you're so sweet!!!

I hope it all goes smoothly as well! Though we do have a backup plan if there are bumps, thank goodness. *hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-18 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com
Oooh, exciting. Though does contain terrifying words like "mortgage". Hope it all goes well. Sounds like some of the issues - like water and internet - will probably improve in a few years as the area becomes more developed. Good luck!

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yes, development is creeping in--there's a $250K home suburb across the street that just went in. However, there's a state park on the other side of that, and railroad tracks behind us, so there isn't too much room for development, so I'm pretty happy.

*hugs* Thanks!

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com
Good luck! I hope you get it. And don't despair - having a house is much, much better than living in an apartment!

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Good luck! I hope you get it. And don't despair - having a house is much, much better than living in an apartment!

You have no idea how much that makes me feel better--seriously. Thank you for the comment!!

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Date: 2008-10-19 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerlaine.livejournal.com
Oh, that sounds wonderfull. Don't worry, septic isn't too bad my parents house had a septic tank. And as the area develops you'll eventually be able to hook up to city systems, and upgrade from satellite internet.

Sending good vibes your way!

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Date: 2008-10-19 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Oh, that sounds wonderfull. Don't worry, septic isn't too bad my parents house had a septic tank. And as the area develops you'll eventually be able to hook up to city systems, and upgrade from satellite internet.

Yes, I'm very much hoping that it all progresses like that. We're on a paved road, at the least, and there's a brand new subdivision across the street, so there's some hope for us yet!

Thank you SO much for the good vibes!! And your icon is scarily appropriate, lol.

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Date: 2008-10-19 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-jess.livejournal.com
That's great news, and such wonderful generosity, helping you both to what sounds like an exceptional property.

Face the mortgage terrors; they wear off. After all, you won't be paying rent any more. And eventually the mortgage will be done with, and you'll have your lovely house, with all the happy associations too.

I hope no insurmountable difficulties crop up, and that soon enough you're in your home.

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Date: 2008-10-19 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
We are very much crossing our fingers. The scariest leap will be trying to get the mortgage itself. I am afraid of what they'll say about our credit, honestly. The whole thing is scary.

And the payments will be 1/3 more than we pay now, which could be a serious issue...so we're really starting to go through our pockets and try to figure everything out. We're so lucky to have help from both sides of the family.

Thank you so much for your kind words! *hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-19 02:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tinx_r
Sending huge good vibes :)

Best of luck!

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Date: 2008-10-19 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you so much! You're the sweetest. *giant hugs*

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Date: 2008-10-19 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdenia.livejournal.com
*sending very good vibes* Yeah, 'mortgage' is kinda a scary thought, but the family help is epic, and hey--when you two are in your senior years, you'll only have to pay property taxes, no more monthly payments! :D

This will be fabulous!!! I wish you well with getting the best-possible mortgage terms!!

*HUGS*

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Date: 2008-10-19 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
We are very scared but so grateful to the families--and I'm hoping that in the long run this will be a good investment. *crosses fingers*

Thank you SO much for your sweet well-wishing!!

*giant hugs*
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