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We've been together a long time, haven't we?

I first met you at the mall, while I was looking for grown-up clothes. You were so liberating! A store where plus-size clothing was the main product, not the afterthought. I went a little nuts, as you might remember, spending a grand over the first two years. I loved your sweaters. It was a match made in heaven.

And we only grew closer. I stopped buying clothes almost anywhere else. I began to understand your stocking cycles. You, in turn, started paying more attention to trends and fashions, and you even started using high-profile plus-size models for your ads.

I mean, there were still some strange moments. Like the time I found that you had stocked three giant racks full of halter tops, and I had to really wonder if you understood your target audience, especially later, when I saw that your clearance section was now overflowing with halter tops. Still, I thought it a momentary lapse of reason. An aberration.

But little by little, these aberrations became commonplace. Slowly but surely, you changed.

I used to find it hard to limit my purchases to under $100. Now I can barely find $100 of clothing to buy.

Let me explain.

I do not need every article of clothing to be in the season's "hot colors." Hot pink and bright turquoise are not my friends. Yes, thank you for the chocolate and the black, but I have enough of that already.

Not every sweater needs a hood. Especially not a nice comfy cotton cardigan marked "sleepwear."

Not every piece of clothing needs to sparkle. I do not want to sparkle. We've had issues with that before, remember? I'm a big girl. I don't need to blind people. And stop with the rivets. A few are okay. More than that, and you start chewing up my washing machine.

I don't mind being a little daring every so often. But a shirt that is so low-cut that you can see the front of my bra? No.

There is absolutely no reason that you need to elasticize the bottom two to four inches of a sweater. Do you understand what that looks like on a plus-size girl who has a bit of a tummy? It is unflattering in the extreme, and very infuriating, especially when the sweater in question is adorable otherwise.

There is absolutely no need to elasticize the bottom two to four inches of your tops. Or put a clingy waist in them, even though the rest of the outfit is about as shapely as a flour sack. An empire waist, sure. But not an across-the-hips waist. You of all people should understand this. One or two shirts, I could understand. But not a significant portion of your offerings.

Speaking of sweaters, when did you decide that all sweaters needed to be either a) shapeless or b) so close-fitting and thin that no shirt can be worn underneath? If these were half of your offerings, I would understand, but when the majority of your sweaters falls into one of these two categories it becomes vexing.

I don't care if everyone is wearing ruffles right now. They are not particularly flattering, and less so on plus-size girls. Adding ruffles to a few blouses is fine. Adding ruffles to the majority? Not fine. I am not a clown. I don't play one on TV.

If the trend (for the past three years, no less) does include lots of patterned tees with funky gothic script and angels and butterflies and heraldic coats-of-arms, then why do you stock only four of them? I have been to major department stores and seen the regular-size departments. They are full of tees like this. Why the ruffled blouses, and not the screened tees? Nearly every plus-size department has more of a selection, including Ed Hardy tees. And why, for two of the four that you are stocking, do you insist on using a regular neck t-shirt and then cutting a four inch slit down the very front? Do you really think that this will lay properly? Do you really think that after repeated washings this will still look good? Also, haven't you noticed that any time you stock screened tees, they sell out quickly? I often can't find my size. Why don't you carry more of them?

Hot pink and orange argyle sweaters? I wouldn't wear one on a bet. I can't imagine anyone in the plus-size world would.

For old times' sake, I tried on your new jeans again, the kind you love to trumpet about. You know, the jeans that are sized according to your own proprietary system. Yes, it's a wonderful idea, but I am still questioning the logic, considering that I tried on the "blue" version, which promises to understand that my hips are bigger than my waist, and yet was disappointed to find that, once again, I could barely get them over my hips because the zipper is so short, and again, they fit like a glove but gave me the most obvious camel-toe ever. This is exactly what happened a year and a half ago. Isn't there any further market research being done? Don't you think it a little odd that you've obviously measured the hip size, but failed to realize that the waist + zip needs to EXCEED the hip size so that people can actually get into them?

Why are so many of your models no longer plus-size? Why can't you stop making the plus-size models pose in contorted positions? I understand that you wish to avoid unsightly bulges, but I would like to see what it looks like without the model grabbing the hem and pulling it away from her, or keeping her lower torso turned ninety degrees away from her upper body.

Do you understand that I went into your store and planned on spending $225, and could barely pick out $140? And that was with buying two black tees that I really didn't even need to buy. I'm really disappointed in you. I thought we meant more to you. Why do you keep getting overexcited about certain trends? Don't you realize that not every trend is flattering on the plus-size? And why aren't you capitalizing on the trends that the plus-size are really wearing?

I think our affair is finally over. We had some good times, but I just can't deal with a hood on my sleepwear and I will not wear a hot pink and orange argyle sweater.

No love,

Valis
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Date: 2009-09-01 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com
Bottom-elasticed sweaters are not good on anyone, even those of us who still kinda merit our 'bird girl' high school nicknames. Why? Why ruin a perfectly fine sweater that way?

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I don't know, and I was seriously nearly swearing aloud at the store. There were giant loose-fitting eighties-style sweaters with elasticized bottoms, and then normal, slim-fit thin sweaters with elasticized bottoms. Screwed both ways. *growls*

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snarkypants.livejournal.com
Word. I bought the cutest, sexiest black denim pencil skirt there.

That had big, fat, nasty riveted buttons... not on front, oh, no, but under the ass.

My first day at work --and my work is not sedentary, I'm on my feet 70% of the day--I was ready to rip the thing from my body and light fire to my hair and run screaming out onto the prairie. Because the back side of the riveted buttons on my backside was gouging out some of the best skin I ever had.

Why, LB? Why?

And there are not enough v-neck 3/4 sleeve t-shirts, and too damn many shirts that have strings and laces and gewgaws hanging off of them, just waiting to get caught on something.

I've got a pair of khaki capris from Dickies, of all people that, after years of trying the one-season-only paper-thin LB version, are a revelation. LB is good for cotton knickers and a pick-me-up blouse, but that's kind of the limit.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Word. I bought the cutest, sexiest black denim pencil skirt there.

That had big, fat, nasty riveted buttons... not on front, oh, no, but under the ass.

My first day at work --and my work is not sedentary, I'm on my feet 70% of the day--I was ready to rip the thing from my body and light fire to my hair and run screaming out onto the prairie. Because the back side of the riveted buttons on my backside was gouging out some of the best skin I ever had.


YES. What the hell is going on?! Some of this stuff is guaranteed to cause misery. I tried on a pair of jeans that had full-on giant zippers on the back pockets. Giant zippers. Back pockets. Guaranteed to rip out the upholstery in your car.

Even worse--I'm sure you would shudder to see it--they had a sweater where the neck hole was a giant zipper track. I am not making this up. It had zipper heads on each shoulder. Yes. Comfortable, right?

And there are not enough v-neck 3/4 sleeve t-shirts, and too damn many shirts that have strings and laces and gewgaws hanging off of them, just waiting to get caught on something.

Some of them are just absolutely grotesque. They have some really cute stuff that is impractical, but then sometimes they have to outugly themselves, and they'll have something with...oh, say, leopardskin print AND giant fake plastic gems glued to it. Huh?

I've got a pair of khaki capris from Dickies, of all people that, after years of trying the one-season-only paper-thin LB version, are a revelation. LB is good for cotton knickers and a pick-me-up blouse, but that's kind of the limit.

I think this is IT. Enough. I cannot take it anymore. I've been so faithful for so long, and I'm just now realizing that I have no idea who they're clothing anymore, because it sure as hell isn't me.

I guess it's back to Lee jeans for me. And I'll have to cross my fingers and hope that Torrid has the occasional awesome thing.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celisnebula.livejournal.com
I seriously hate Lane Bryants, Fashion Bug, and Catherines the only three places to by plus size clothing near me in a 60 mile radius. I can't seem to find anything flattering there anymore. It looks like crap on me. So I've been buying mens clothes.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Dude, Catherines is probably the worst store I have ever seen. Everything is a bejeweled mu-mu. I hate that place with a fiery passion.

And I'm not really enamored of Fashion Bug, either. grah.

I do try department stores, but even still, it's hard to find anything up-to-date. LB? Too trendy with wacky trends. Kohl's/Target? Too blah and too shapeless and tacky.

*hugs in commiseration*

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:22 am (UTC)
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I won't go near Lane Bryant. First, I'm on the cusp of normal/women's sizes so much of their stuff doesn't fit me right, and second, I really do not like their styles. I've had much, much better luck at Macy's, especially their house brands.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
You know, it's weird that you mention that--I was just talking to [livejournal.com profile] subrosax, and she mentioned Macy's. I checked out their website, and wow! Lots of very cute tops. I might have to wander over there and check it out! Thanks!

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:30 am (UTC)
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You should seriously send this to the store. These clothes sound comically awful.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Just check out their website (http://www.lanebryant.com/home.jsp) and you'll see exactly what I mean. Their front page is nice, and has conservative clothes, but with a few clicks you find yourself staring at something that is leopardskin-patterned and calls itself a "pucker" jacket. Just no.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cactus-wren.livejournal.com
Please, please, actually send this letter to their marketing department. Every single word of it is right on the money. The money that they no longer get from me, that is.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cactus-wren.livejournal.com
Also, where is it that you are finding plus sized Ed Hardy tees? Want one!

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jekesta
I am in the UK and only know about Lane Bryant from people talking about it online - I'm a member of various fat positive websites and communities - but OH GOD so much of this rings true. It's not even that I think they shouldn't make trendy clothes in unflattering shapes, I think it's fine, I just think they should promise to make SOME clothes that are genuinely NICE rather than FASHIONABLE. And I don't know if it happens to you, but I don't understand why I have to spend ALL OF MY SUMMERS FOREVER looking for things with sleeves, which they just REFUSE to make. And OH GOD the elasticating weird parts of their clothes, we spent a whole season a bit ago where they put elastic around the fattest part of all the sleeves, as if to encourage a slight sausage shape thing. I can't explain it because it MADE NO SENSE.

Sorry, you sort of caught me in a rant I was already having. Bah.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
It's not even that I think they shouldn't make trendy clothes in unflattering shapes, I think it's fine, I just think they should promise to make SOME clothes that are genuinely NICE rather than FASHIONABLE.

YES. And even though they do have a set of staples, sometimes they do inexplicable things with them, like the pink/turquoise thing, and, this time, horizontal stripes. No, seriously. One shirt was sweatshirt grey with lime green stripes. I am not making this up.

And OH GOD the elasticating weird parts of their clothes, we spent a whole season a bit ago where they put elastic around the fattest part of all the sleeves, as if to encourage a slight sausage shape thing. I can't explain it because it MADE NO SENSE.

Yes, what the hell?! What is this about? Also, I don't understand the sweater-bathrobe thing. For a size 6, sure. For plus-size, it makes the hips look quite large. And yet LB had some new versions of it, even though the trend was three years ago!

Sorry, you sort of caught me in a rant I was already having. Bah.

It was a great rant. I enjoyed it tremendously.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droxy.livejournal.com
Cold Water Creek dear...try them. =)

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I've tried their clothing--for some reason it doesn't seem to fit me very well. It might just be my own strange anatomy. :( But thanks for the suggestion!!

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scatteredlogic.livejournal.com
~nods~ I'm not sure who's in charge of selecting the styles at Lane Bryant, but they need to be fired. LB used to be the place I bought all my clothes. Now, like you, I can barely find anything I can stand.

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I don't know what happened. I showed some of the pics to a friend who isn't plus-size, and she was in awe over some of them. I mean, there are some cute things, but impractical for me at least, and then there are some cute things that are put together strangely, and then there are some ugly things. I just have no idea how they put this stuff together. And it seems like the attractive clothing sells fairly quickly. I just dunno!

I was attracted to the retro jackets they had until I realized they were plastic. blech.

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arouette.livejournal.com
Sing. It. Sister.

I used to *adore* Lane Bryant. Now...yeah.

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I've finally lost it. I will go back and check it out every so often, I'm certain, but they are no longer my mainstay. It's sad, because at one time 90% of my wardrobe came from them.

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catyah.livejournal.com
I agree with everybody here who says you should send your post to Lane Bryant! In fact, I think you should cc it to *everybody* at Lane Bryant, and for that matter, if you included all the replies you're getting, they would know just what a problem their store has become.

I don't shop there myself, but a few coworkers and my BFF *used* to. They never shop there anymore.

I have been having a miserable time doing any clothes shopping myself -- supposedly the new *big* markets for clothes are for 13-19 year old women. I suppose that explains why all tops look like they are made of tissue paper and all shoes have 6 inch heels, and an XL t-shirt is comparable to a size FOUR in *normal* sizes?

*hisses in frustration*

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I agree with everybody here who says you should send your post to Lane Bryant! In fact, I think you should cc it to *everybody* at Lane Bryant, and for that matter, if you included all the replies you're getting, they would know just what a problem their store has become.

hee! I keep thinking I might do just that. Though it is a bit snarky, lol.

I don't shop there myself, but a few coworkers and my BFF *used* to. They never shop there anymore.

I can't believe I've given up. They were always my mainstay.

I have been having a miserable time doing any clothes shopping myself -- supposedly the new *big* markets for clothes are for 13-19 year old women. I suppose that explains why all tops look like they are made of tissue paper and all shoes have 6 inch heels, and an XL t-shirt is comparable to a size FOUR in *normal* sizes?

Yes, and the incredibly low-cut tops, and the clingy stuff. I mean, I welcome some form to plus-size fashion--just not the vacuum-sealed kind. grah!! :)

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
I've had some luck with CJ Banks, but some of their things run to the buttoned-up and soccer-mom'd. I usually get stuff at Kohl's, but their online selection is crap and the plus size collection is TINY. I can sometimes fit into an XL or XXL in women's, but not always. I think I'll have to check out Macy's now.

This rant rang so true for me. XD I just got the usual "BUY STUFF WOMAN DOLLARS" email and thought I'd see what they had. I couldn't find anything I really wanted to buy, except the new upscale riding coat for $140. FAIL.

They even stopped making their great cotton full coverage bras and no-wire bras in fun patterns. What, LB, I'm supposed to wear peach, white, and black bras all the time? NO WAY. XD

I have a hard time finding stuff that isn't cap sleeves and/or elasticized to the hell or some mock turtleneck or fake combo layered sweater vest (which invariably have white fake dickeys on them and I HATE white, why can't I just buy the DAMN VEST ALONE) or yes, giant swoopy sweaters with bangles and weird side vents and what the hell, bubble skirts?

OH NO

so I haven't bought anything from there in ages. I even stopped buying the right fit jeans. In fact, Levi's now has a plus size bootcut with "fitted waist" and "fuller waist" options, since I have the other size problem: my waist is not defined and I have a hard time finding things that fit my waist and aren't HUGE in the thighs. But I think I've told you that before. lol But the Levi's are pretty good so far. I also tried Baby Phat Signature jeans, and it's amazing... they fit my waist and my thighs and wow. that is rare. They won't fit you probably, but they might have another style of jeans that works.

Why are so many of your models no longer plus-size? Why can't you stop making the plus-size models pose in contorted positions?
LOL I KNOW! Everytime I get one of their catalogs, N looks at it and says: "how is she plus-sized?" And I'm always saying, uh, her thighs are round? and failing miserably at the rationalization. OMG look at this woman. She is having severe posture problems, and ARGH WTF is she wearing!?! It's like your second-grade teachers dress in a coat. with pockets. Why not just throw a Blossom hat and some big plastic hoops on and be done with it?

BTW, Lane Bryant, I don't want any batwing capes or gaucho pants or skinny jeans or ruffle shirts or leggings. I already lived through the 80s, so those things are out too. also the 90s.

so here is my semi-annual Lane Bryant ranty comment to follow your entry. I love these posts. XD

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Date: 2009-09-01 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I've had some luck with CJ Banks, but some of their things run to the buttoned-up and soccer-mom'd. I usually get stuff at Kohl's, but their online selection is crap and the plus size collection is TINY. I can sometimes fit into an XL or XXL in women's, but not always. I think I'll have to check out Macy's now.

Kohl's makes me crazy! They have CUTE CUTE clothes in their regular-size section. Super cute stuff. And then I get to the plus-size section, and it's the same four giant non-tailored blouses and the same set of solid-color tees they always have, with a few festive velvet-burnout sweaters and crap. Once in a blue moon they have something I like.

This rant rang so true for me. XD I just got the usual "BUY STUFF WOMAN DOLLARS" email and thought I'd see what they had. I couldn't find anything I really wanted to buy, except the new upscale riding coat for $140. FAIL.

You know, I was so excited about this "icon" campaign--it looked like they might be going for some tailored, sophisticated stuff--but it ended up not being interesting. I couldn't find most of it.

I have a hard time finding stuff that isn't cap sleeves and/or elasticized to the hell or some mock turtleneck or fake combo layered sweater vest (which invariably have white fake dickeys on them and I HATE white, why can't I just buy the DAMN VEST ALONE) or yes, giant swoopy sweaters with bangles and weird side vents and what the hell, bubble skirts?

What the hell is going on with the fake layered crap? IF I WANT TO LAYER I WILL DO IT MYSELF! In fact, I usually do! grah! Give me a sweater which has enough substance and give that I can wear it over a shirt, and give me a nice shirt. grah!

so I haven't bought anything from there in ages. I even stopped buying the right fit jeans. In fact, Levi's now has a plus size bootcut with "fitted waist" and "fuller waist" options, since I have the other size problem: my waist is not defined and I have a hard time finding things that fit my waist and aren't HUGE in the thighs. But I think I've told you that before. lol But the Levi's are pretty good so far. I also tried Baby Phat Signature jeans, and it's amazing... they fit my waist and my thighs and wow. that is rare. They won't fit you probably, but they might have another style of jeans that works.

Oh yes, I am going back to Lee's. I hope that I can find some good stuff.

Cavaricci (I've mangled the spelling, sorry) has fantastic jeans that fit me like a glove, and that's my next stop. Enough with the Wrong Fit.

LOL I KNOW! Everytime I get one of their catalogs, N looks at it and says: "how is she plus-sized?" And I'm always saying, uh, her thighs are round? and failing miserably at the rationalization. OMG look at this woman. She is having severe posture problems, and ARGH WTF is she wearing!?! It's like your second-grade teachers dress in a coat. with pockets. Why not just throw a Blossom hat and some big plastic hoops on and be done with it?

I'm so surprised by this because they made such a deal out of hiring Emme and Liv Tyler's sister and stuff, you know? And now they've snuck the not-plus-size models back in. And the plus-size models are in the WEIRDEST poses! I can't believe some of the strange ways they're posed. It actually makes me uncomfortable.

Yes, what the hell is that woman doing? Posing right before she elegantly falls down a well? argh!

BTW, Lane Bryant, I don't want any batwing capes or gaucho pants or skinny jeans or ruffle shirts or leggings. I already lived through the 80s, so those things are out too. also the 90s.

DUDE THEY HAD SKINNY JEANS THERE. NO LIE. Um. I might have tried them on, lol. Only they had zippers on the back pockets that would have destroyed everything they came into contact with. And the ruffle shirts!! I can't believe they're back in style. But still, this doesn't mean that every blouse NEEDS A RUFFLE.

so here is my semi-annual Lane Bryant ranty comment to follow your entry. I love these posts. XD

I LOVE YOUR RANTY COMMENTS!!! hee!! *giant hugs*

You rock. ;)

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Date: 2009-09-01 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alisanne.livejournal.com
OMG!
It's NOT just me?
This SO could have been me writing this. I simply CANNOT shop there anymore.

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Date: 2009-09-01 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I've totally given up. Yesterday's shopping trip was a last-ditch effort. No more! hahaha!!

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Date: 2009-09-01 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gina-r-snape.livejournal.com
Ruffles? Orange argyle? Four inch elastic on the bottom of sweaters?

It's things like these that convince me some designers HATE WOMEN.

Have you ever shopped in Old Navy? Not sure what size you are, but I've regularly seen sizes up to 22 and XXL in the racks every time I've shopped.

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Date: 2009-09-01 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I don't know what it going on, but wow. They seem more trend-based than ever. So on one hand we have Kohl's, waaay too conservative and non-trend based, and on the other we have LB, who just goes nuts with a bunch of trends. I need something in the middle, darnit!

I have tried ON before. In fact, last time I was there I got unreasonably excited because I found a stack of clothing to try on. However, that excitement turned to sadness because not one piece of clothing really fit. Their version of 2X must not be mine, unfortunately. :(

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Date: 2009-09-01 03:31 am (UTC)
ishie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ishie
I was in an LB a few months ago on a last-minute buying binge before my bff's big wedding extravaganza. While I was ringing up, after some power-shopping choices we really don't need to go into, this lady stalks up to the counter and starts bitching about the selection. The saleslady calms her down and thanks her for all her business and lets her know about some of the other plus-size stores in the mall that might have what she was looking for. After she leaves, the saleslady says to me, "I just hate that we're not stocking the classics and the staples anymore." She went on to explain that it is actual corporate directive that they are only going to sell, say, a classic blazer if it is emblazoned with dazzle or that Ed Hardy fake tattoo crap or whatever the hot trend is that season, and they are out of the business of wardrobe building.

I can understand the reasoning - there's more money to be had in catering to fleeting trends than in staples, especially if you're trying to capture a younger "trendier" marketshare - but it's so disappointing. LB was the first plus-size store that seemed to give a flying fart about fashion for us.

I haven't really found a replacement yet, but the girls at work have recommendations that escape me at the moment. If I remember tomorrow, I'll ask around and add to this comment.

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Date: 2009-09-01 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I was in an LB a few months ago on a last-minute buying binge before my bff's big wedding extravaganza. While I was ringing up, after some power-shopping choices we really don't need to go into, this lady stalks up to the counter and starts bitching about the selection. The saleslady calms her down and thanks her for all her business and lets her know about some of the other plus-size stores in the mall that might have what she was looking for. After she leaves, the saleslady says to me, "I just hate that we're not stocking the classics and the staples anymore." She went on to explain that it is actual corporate directive that they are only going to sell, say, a classic blazer if it is emblazoned with dazzle or that Ed Hardy fake tattoo crap or whatever the hot trend is that season, and they are out of the business of wardrobe building.

Seriously? Seriously?!!! Wow, this is the proof I need. What a nightmare. I don't understand why everything has to be so "out there" trend-wise. Not every trend is suitable for the plus-size, as we know.

Wow. I'm a bit bowled over.

I can understand the reasoning - there's more money to be had in catering to fleeting trends than in staples, especially if you're trying to capture a younger "trendier" marketshare - but it's so disappointing. LB was the first plus-size store that seemed to give a flying fart about fashion for us.

I remember the first few trips into a LB--I was so excited! Finally, cute clothes!

I used to have a friend who was a size 10 who came in with me. We'd look at the clothes and I'd try on a bunch.

One time she said, "I wish they made clothes for people my size! I really hate it that they don't."

I ALMOST SCREAMED. Seriously. I mean, she could buy clothes at EVERY women's clothing store in the mall except for this one. That made me mental.

I haven't really found a replacement yet, but the girls at work have recommendations that escape me at the moment. If I remember tomorrow, I'll ask around and add to this comment.

Oh yes, I'd love to hear!

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Date: 2009-09-01 03:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] florahart
Ahaha JUST last night someone pointed me to something on LB's website to ask if I would wear that (in the context of a conversation about how very hidebound I am about what I will wear--there are many things about which I am flexible, but the list of things that are just absolutely NO for me is very long indeed*), and in poking around I concluded that if I were trying to shop, my tolerance for shopping would run out WELL before I found even one item which I could even sort of consider, and that's before even addressing actual STYLE issues. Just on the grounds of things that will drive me batshit. When I started taking into account OH GOD WHAT I can't put that on a roundish body or wear that without blinding people, it just got silly.

*things Flora won't wear because she will be too distracted to concentrate inside ten minutes: all lace, even not against her skin because either she will feel the pattern anyway, like on the outside of a bra, or because it's way too likely to irritate her hands, arms, chin, whatever; doesn't matter what it's made of. All wool. All silk. Satin, probably any fabric that makes noise, anything involving elastic in a shirt. Tight or unbreathing waistbands. Pantyhose in every form ever ever ever made ever. Skirts, full stop. Anything with seams in unexpected places. 3/4 sleeves. Whatever those puffy really shorts sleeves are. Anything that has like a flarey wrist thing. Actually, any sleeve that flares. Lumpy knits (for example, like, thick sweaters that have the knitting in patterns?). Why yes, this DOES leave, like, gym clothes and jeans, hoodies, crewneck sweatshirts, cotton and flat thin knits, and, um, nothing else.

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Date: 2009-09-01 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethbethbeth.livejournal.com
Agreed with all of this...except the 3/4 length sleeves, which I love. I hate anything on my wrists as much as I hate anything on my neck (which...I'm a bad person to buy jewelry for *g*)

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Date: 2009-09-01 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-grayjoy.livejournal.com
So. You're going to send this letter to the company's corporate office... RIGHT? XD

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Date: 2009-09-01 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
hee! I'm wondering if I can email it to them. I'd probably get a form letter back, lol, but it would still be interesting...

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Date: 2009-09-01 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ook.livejournal.com
Lane Bryant doesn't even carry "normal" clothing any more that's of good quality. I bought some cotton tee shirts just to wear around the house and after one washing, the sizing was gone and the shirts fit really badly. They had a variant of cotton/rayon in the same shirts and those things felt so "greasy" and uncomfortable when they were worn.

The only items I've found at Lane Bryant that's any good are the Cacique bras.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yeah, the quality is pretty cheap for a lot of their clothing. I bought one sweater which is so thin you can just about see through it! ugh.

I do love the bras, though, you're right. I have tons of those. So comfy!!

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Date: 2009-09-01 05:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] keladry_lupin
I have such a bone to pick with LB. Two decades ago when I was a fat teenager, the only places to shop for my size were Avenue, Catherine's, and Lane Bryant. Catherine's was all glittery and grandma-ish -- ick. But the Avenue and LB carried conservative, nice clothes, and that was the best I could hope for. The idea that a woman who was a size 16 or 18 could be sexy and deserved clothes that didn't look like potato sacks? Never happened. But now that I'm in my thirties and no longer have the desire to dress like a sexy young thing (even though I never was sexy), LB comes out with the stuff for sexy young things.

And my rant doesn't even touch on your point of the styles not being flattering to those of us with flabby arms and big bellies. That's a whole 'nother thing that you've already said much better than I could.

Eat hot death, Lane Bryant.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I have such a bone to pick with LB. Two decades ago when I was a fat teenager, the only places to shop for my size were Avenue, Catherine's, and Lane Bryant. Catherine's was all glittery and grandma-ish -- ick. But the Avenue and LB carried conservative, nice clothes, and that was the best I could hope for. The idea that a woman who was a size 16 or 18 could be sexy and deserved clothes that didn't look like potato sacks? Never happened. But now that I'm in my thirties and no longer have the desire to dress like a sexy young thing (even though I never was sexy), LB comes out with the stuff for sexy young things.

Oh yeah, I watched them start moving toward the sexah clothing, and I thought, wow, this could be good, or this could be bad! And then after they kept going that way, I got a little freaked out. I mean, seriously, no one needs to see my bra.

And my rant doesn't even touch on your point of the styles not being flattering to those of us with flabby arms and big bellies. That's a whole 'nother thing that you've already said much better than I could.

It's just insane that they come out with this sort of clothing, which is usually dismissed by plus-size girls. It boggles the mind!!

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Date: 2009-09-01 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tudorpot.livejournal.com
amen- I hate that stores who stock plus size clothes feel we must wear black or brown. I would love to be able to buy trousers. My last few attempts all failed as there are only capris on the racks. And what is with putting pocket flaps on the butt of plus size trousers- my arse is big enough already- don't attract more attention to it-- nor does it need sparkles or rivets. It is a dire situation when you and I can't spend money to buy clothes. Some of my clothes are more than 15 years old, I'm just glad they aren't falling apart as it is impossible to find new stuff.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
amen- I hate that stores who stock plus size clothes feel we must wear black or brown.

I don't mind a little black or brown, but I want some interesting colors, too! Not just the hot colors of the season, but some regular colors, too.

And what is with putting pocket flaps on the butt of plus size trousers- my arse is big enough already- don't attract more attention to it-- nor does it need sparkles or rivets.

YES!! EXACTLY!! It's astonishing what they put on pants. I tried on a pair with zippers on the pockets. Giant industrial zippers! They would have torn out the upholstery in my car!

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Date: 2009-09-01 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mingbutterfly.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, this is so depressing! You are beautiful and you deserve beautiful clothes.

I second Talbot's, surprisingly found some smexy things there. You could also try Nordstrom and JCPenney, both have reasonably priced basics in an array of sizes.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Aw, you're so sweet!! Thank you!

I will definitely have to check out those stores. I'm picky, which doesn't help things, lol!!

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Date: 2009-09-01 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaelle-n-gilla.livejournal.com
You should SO send that to Lane Bryant in a letter. It's great, it's humorous, and I think they should appreciate the constructive feedback if they care for their customers at all. Send it! :-)

And you are so right. Some fashions only look vaguely good on the bulimic. Like the elasticized sweaters and tees. I mean, I am just below plus size I guess and it makes me look like a walrus. And the jeans that won't go over my hips or thighs?!? Word! I feel with you.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
hahaha! I really am thinking that I will be sending it along.

The giant band of elastic around the waist--who the hell in their marketing department approved this?! It boggles the mind! It's awful. I looked like I had an alien trying to pop out of my tummy.

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Date: 2009-09-01 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iibnf.livejournal.com
A new fatty shop has opened here - City Chic - and we were quite keen to check it out, but it's all sausage skins. Hideous, hideous sausage skins.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
That's so depressing. I just want some nice clothes. Is that so hard? :(

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Date: 2009-09-01 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artystone.livejournal.com
If it helps, this isn't exclusive to plus-sizes. I've walked out of countless stores empty-handed. I have gift cards left over from my birthday in January that apparently some major department store buyers simply do not want me to spend.

Jeans? Again you're not alone. It's impossible to find jeans that do not show 1/2 your backside when you sit down. I'm thinking this is the reason for the elasticizing of the bottom hems of tops. Something's gotta stick down there!

Oh, and Ed Hardy should die.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
If it helps, this isn't exclusive to plus-sizes. I've walked out of countless stores empty-handed. I have gift cards left over from my birthday in January that apparently some major department store buyers simply do not want me to spend.

YES! You know what I spent the bulk of my GCs on? Lingerie. Yeah. Husband will have fun, but jeepers, I'd like some daytime clothes, too!

Jeans? Again you're not alone. It's impossible to find jeans that do not show 1/2 your backside when you sit down. I'm thinking this is the reason for the elasticizing of the bottom hems of tops. Something's gotta stick down there!

You've discovered the method to their madness! Yep, that's gotta be it.

Oh, and Ed Hardy should die.

*SNORT* omg, I hurt myself there.

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Date: 2009-09-01 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mnemosyne-redux.livejournal.com
Ugh, I'm with you on Lane Bryant. The one thing they do right for me is the Right Fit - I finally have jeans and black dress pants that fit me perfectly. Apparently the model they used for their Blue line is my evil twin, and it rocks. LOL...

As for the rest of it??? Eh. Ugh. Ew. I can't even buy high quality t-shirts there anymore, because they keep doing stuff to them. Every once in a while I find a nice shirt, but not often. And I don't (can't, moneywise) go shopping all the time to try and find things. :( Fortunately, I do have staples in my closet that I've had for a year or more - mostly winter stuff - so I'm good for a little while. But seriously, Lane Bryant is so frustrating. I understand wanting to be trendy? But not the whole store. Give us half staples and half trendy, and we'll all be happy. (I won't even get into the horizontal stripes and the halter tops. Or the "muscle" tanks they had last summer. Are you kidding me?)

Anyway. I feel your pain.

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Date: 2009-09-02 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Ugh, I'm with you on Lane Bryant. The one thing they do right for me is the Right Fit - I finally have jeans and black dress pants that fit me perfectly. Apparently the model they used for their Blue line is my evil twin, and it rocks. LOL...

Lucky for you, my friend! Because seriously, I had no luck with their blue stuff. I have a ten inch diff between hip and waist, and I was so excited, until the camel-toe problem surfaced. grah.

(I won't even get into the horizontal stripes and the halter tops. Or the "muscle" tanks they had last summer. Are you kidding me?)

Yes!! They had more horizontal striped shirts! One was sweatshirt grey with lime green stripes. urgh.

Muscle tanks? Oh god. I don't remember those. Maybe I'm blocking them out, lol!
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