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So while I was in Wisconsin I was reading a collection of essays called Writers on Writing. There were a lot of well-known and respected names, and a lot of advice, and a lot of interesting approaches to writing about writing, as one would expect.

But there was one essay that really stood out for me, personally.

You see, I have this theory about writing, that it is as individual as writers are. We love to write about writing, but there's only one thing I've learned about writing, which is that everyone does it differently, and thus a lot of this advice is of the Your Mileage May Vary school.

There are a few pieces of advice that I have seen fairly consistently. One, for example, is the Consistent Output advice. The main component is either to a) be at your writing desk at a consistent time each day, and/or b) write a certain number of words (I have seen more than a few mentions of 1000) per day. The thing is, IMO, this all depends on the kind of person you are and the kind of writer you are. Even on the kind of mood you're in.

For example, the very thought of just sitting and writing 1000 words of...well, nonsense, stuff without a plan--makes me break out in hives. My brain thinks, what a waste. I can't imagine that writing 1000 words of total crap each day would help in any way. However, like I said before, writers are such individual creatures that I am certain there are many who would benefit from this or at least enjoy it immensely. I'm not one of them.

"For Authors, Fragile Ideas Need Loving Every Day," by Walter Mosley was the first writing advice essay that really seemed to speak directly to me. Unfortunately, I left the book in WI, so I don't have any exact quotes, but the premise was that when you create a story, you create a space in your head for it to dwell in, a special place where you can nurture and grow the story.

This concept appeals to me greatly. As I've talked about in previous writing entries, I'm often daydreaming about different places and people, even as I'm working on data entry documents or sorting merchandise. I jump into this space often and splash around. Sometimes an image just pops into my head, something wordless but intriguing.

Mosley talks about this space and how fragile it is. He takes the concept of writing a certain number of words or consistently sitting down at a desk and instead transforms it into something else--he maintains that you have to get into the story, touch base with it, at least once every twenty-four hours or it might wither away. I'm paraphrasing terribly here, but he basically points out that when you start a story, you're in that space, and if you think about it the next day, you can reenter that space relatively quickly because you're still so near. The longer you go without touching it, the more difficult it will be to recapture it, and you might lose whole portions. Even with notes, the space will eventually drift away if it isn't written.

I felt such a sense of delight after I read his essay, because this is very much how I am and how I write. Last week I wrote every single night, and I was able to seamlessly dip right back into the story after each absence. During the day I'd think of new parts for the story, or how to write certain scenes (basically, I was dwelling in the space here and there), and when I got to my computer it would flow right out of my fingertips.

This week I haven't had time to write at all. And because I did spend time in that space, I did have some bits and bobs of plot, but I didn't write them down, and I didn't have that marker to take me back to the subspace where these bits and bobs were. I might remember some of them during the writing, but I think most of them are gone now. I need to dwell in the space, and dwelling in the space brings me to writing more words. The word limit isn't necessary; when they're there, they're there, and they come out as I think, fully formed and narrated in my head by the near-constant Narration Monster who lurks there.

So what I've brought away from this is that it's good to dwell in the space each day. If I don't, the story suffers. However, the other important lesson is that if I don't jot down a few notes, I will not remember the space, and that lovely feeling and set of thoughts will disappear. If I take notes, it really does help because even just a few words can often point me back to that feeling.

Again I find nothing but puzzlement for the advice about writing at least 1000 words per day; if they are not of value, then they are not helpful to me. I know, practice makes perfect, but I'd rather practice with actual pieces than with disconnected scribblings. Other people might mine these words for something valuable, but I think I'm going to try to keep in contact with the fragile story-space and make certain I take better notes. *nodnod*

Your mileage may vary.

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Date: 2010-03-05 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampireanneke.livejournal.com
Interesting. I have little problem with jumping back into a story. My problem is making sure I didn't already write the same thing earlier in the story. And keeping track of what day of the week the part of the story I'm writing is set at, because for some reason I tend to write very day by day in the story. I cringe when I have to jump days in a storyline.

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Date: 2010-03-05 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I worry about repetitive elements, too.

And I am SO similar--I also write day by day and hate jumping days. And I have to keep a little chart of which days I've already written, and days with events coming up, or I get very confused, especially in long stories.

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Date: 2010-03-05 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elle-blessing.livejournal.com
I find this to be true for me too... the staying in the world every day. The longer you put it off, the harder it is and the longer it takes to get back into it. Like anything, really. Half the battle is starting... or as my Grandpa always says, "once you start, you're halfway done" :D

And yeah, the mileage will vary. I find that even just 'checking in' with your world and characters with even a couple a hundred words if that's all you have the time for, helps.

Thanks for sharing!! Very insightful.

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Date: 2010-03-05 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yeah, checking in is a huge part of what I do every day--I read what I've written, over and over again, and then I try to flow into the next section. I really do find that I enjoy writing every day, when I can.

As much as I love writing a huge chunk of words, that's rarely sustainable. I need to have all of my ducks in a row and I need to have a lot of prep work done in my head before I go there, y'know? And that takes time and writing scribbly notes. lol.

Glad you enjoyed!!

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Date: 2010-03-05 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] little-tristan.livejournal.com
I've never believed in the "write every day" rule. If I don't want to, if the muse isn't there, it's just frustrating and painful. Anything I write is just going to get deleted and the time and effort wasted. But it probably averages out. I can go three days without writing a word, and then write 5,000 on the fourth day. So it's still 30K a month, give or take.

But it's hard when that happens mid-story. Even if I can't write, I still re-read what I have at least once a day, just to keep feeling it. And sometimes it's worth the writing and deleting, if the story is good enough.

The most important thing is to do whatever enables you to do your best work. Nothing screws you up worse than trying to be like someone else.

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Date: 2010-03-06 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I've never believed in the "write every day" rule. If I don't want to, if the muse isn't there, it's just frustrating and painful. Anything I write is just going to get deleted and the time and effort wasted.

YES! Exactly! Why frustrate yourself and cause yourself pain?

I mean, the people who want to do that and who write well like that--more power to them. But me? Nope!

The most important thing is to do whatever enables you to do your best work. Nothing screws you up worse than trying to be like someone else.

We all want to find that successful formula--but I think you have to make your own. *nodnod*

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Date: 2010-03-06 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
For example, the very thought of just sitting and writing 1000 words of...well, nonsense, stuff without a plan--makes me break out in hives. My brain thinks, what a waste. I can't imagine that writing 1000 words of total crap each day would help in any way.

Me, either. While I *could* benefit from learning how to let a bad sentence or paragraph just exist for a while, for long enough to write what comes after and not get stuck on it forever, I see no reason to spend several hours a day writing absolute drivel. It seems hopelessly unproductive.

Also, while I agree that discipline is good and while I'd love to learn how to focus better, I don't think that I-am-sitting-here-until-I-write-1000-words is good for my brain, either.

I'm paraphrasing terribly here, but he basically points out that when you start a story, you're in that space, and if you think about it the next day, you can reenter that space relatively quickly because you're still so near. The longer you go without touching it, the more difficult it will be to recapture it, and you might lose whole portions. Even with notes, the space will eventually drift away if it isn't written.

Oh. My. Freaking. God. Yes. THAT IS PRECISELY IT. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS FOR YEARS.

/flail.

But seriously, yes. Yes! Outlining and writing copious notes both help, but in the end, if I drift from a story or put it away for far too long, if I lose the "feel" for its very particular little place and universe, it's gone. I may know the plot inside out, but if I've lost the feel, I've lost the heart of it. It works a little differently for me, too, though, because I do tend to write short works rather than long ones. I don't have a single story-space floating around in my head at any given time; I have several. Still, the principle stands.

Again I find nothing but puzzlement for the advice about writing at least 1000 words per day; if they are not of value, then they are not helpful to me. I know, practice makes perfect, but I'd rather practice with actual pieces than with disconnected scribblings.

Also, 1000 words is a lot. Maybe not so much for a novel- or novella-length writer, but for a short story writer, prose tends to have to be tighter, more precise. For me, it takes more time to craft a short piece of 800-2000 words than it does to write the same amount of words for a much longer story.

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Date: 2010-03-06 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Me, either. While I *could* benefit from learning how to let a bad sentence or paragraph just exist for a while, for long enough to write what comes after and not get stuck on it forever, I see no reason to spend several hours a day writing absolute drivel. It seems hopelessly unproductive.

A bad sentence can crush me of the will to write more in a fic. Sometimes I write just before I go to bed, and my last sentence will kind of suck, which is my cue to stop writing. And then the next morning that sentence is there, scowling and ugly, and I always recoil in horror and it makes me nearly afraid to try writing more.

I should really learn to omit those.

Oh. My. Freaking. God. Yes. THAT IS PRECISELY IT. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUT THAT INTO WORDS FOR YEARS.

YES! You know what, so have I--and I've never read it written just like this, and after I read it I was just staring at the essay thinking, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES. It was like a bolt of lightning struck me in the head.

but if I've lost the feel, I've lost the heart of it.

Oh yes. I have had a few fics that seemed like they were going to come through and then I waited too long and poof! Gone.

For me, it takes more time to craft a short piece of 800-2000 words than it does to write the same amount of words for a much longer story.

Absolutely. I tolerate a helluva lot more He-did-this and He-did-that in a longer story. ha!

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Date: 2010-03-06 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
Sometimes I write just before I go to bed, and my last sentence will kind of suck, which is my cue to stop writing. And then the next morning that sentence is there, scowling and ugly, and I always recoil in horror and it makes me nearly afraid to try writing more.

Gah, that's the worst part. I mean, I know this whole thing is a constant learning process, but at this point I can't help but get discouraged by less-than-satisfactory prose.

I have had a few fics that seemed like they were going to come through and then I waited too long and poof! Gone.

Oh, man, I have a whole directory of fics that were outlined/planned and even started but just fizzled. Flying by the seat of my pants and not knowing what I'm going to write next is a sure way to kill things, too, but these were more or less planned start to finish. I just sorta lost that feel.

I tolerate a helluva lot more He-did-this and He-did-that in a longer story. ha!

LOL, yes. And heck, more is necessary, to make transitions between big scenes and significant plot points. A lot more downtime is allowed, too, in the sense of having scenes that are... well, filler isn't the right word, but scenes that serve to lessen the tension and relax the brain a bit before launching into the next big plot point.

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Date: 2010-03-06 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Gah, that's the worst part. I mean, I know this whole thing is a constant learning process, but at this point I can't help but get discouraged by less-than-satisfactory prose.

Oh yeah. And it's just so ugly and derailing. That's the perfect word: derailing. I get a little bit taken aback because it's sitting there scowling at me, and I can't believe that I wrote it, and it kind of undermines my (admittedly low) self-esteem to look at it. But it's hard to end on a high note--I just want to write more if something cool comes out. ha!

Oh, man, I have a whole directory of fics that were outlined/planned and even started but just fizzled. Flying by the seat of my pants and not knowing what I'm going to write next is a sure way to kill things, too, but these were more or less planned start to finish. I just sorta lost that feel.

The one I'll always feel sad about is this angsty Snupin fic that just came to me as I was driving home from WI. I basically wrote the whole thing from beginning to end and it was really dark and moving stuff, and then I got home and was too tired to write, and then it vanished. All of it. wah.

I'll always remember that it was a good fic that never got written, and I can't remember anything about it. lol.

LOL, yes. And heck, more is necessary, to make transitions between big scenes and significant plot points. A lot more downtime is allowed, too, in the sense of having scenes that are... well, filler isn't the right word, but scenes that serve to lessen the tension and relax the brain a bit before launching into the next big plot point.

Oh yes! The roller coaster gives you time to coast for a little while, which I love. I love those scenes that are quiet, but stuff is being said underneath. Yum!

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Date: 2010-03-07 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
That's the perfect word: derailing. [...] But it's hard to end on a high note

Yes! I mean, the only time I end on a high note is when I finish a fic, heh. Otherwise, well, I don't stop for the night when it's working--I stop when it's not. So I'm almost always ending a low note, and it depends, when I come back to it, if I'm excited to make it better or paranoid I'll make it worse.

Mostly the latter, lately. You'd think, working in a fandom I've known since I was a little girl, that I'd have at least some measure of self-confidence in what I know and how I interpret.

and then it vanished. All of it. wah.

Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. *flails* I hate that! Granted, it used to happen a lot more than it does, before I started keeping a notebook and penlight beside the bed (since all my best ideas and bits of prose come when I'm drifting off to sleep), but augh. I also used to think the solution to car ideas was a little mini-tape recorder, but I tried that a few times and it didn't work. Writing and/or typing seems to be the only way to get those things down.

I love those scenes that are quiet, but stuff is being said underneath. Yum!

I love it when what's not said is as important, if not more important, than what's actually voiced. I adore those kinds of scenes.

... Hell, some of my short fics have basically been those scenes.

(You've got me talking about writing. You DO realise what this means, right? ROFL.)

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Date: 2010-03-07 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I don't stop for the night when it's working--I stop when it's not. So I'm almost always ending a low note, and it depends, when I come back to it, if I'm excited to make it better or paranoid I'll make it worse.

omg this is EXACTLY what I do! Hence my freakout when I sit down and realize that the last line sucks. Always. haha!

Mostly the latter, lately. You'd think, working in a fandom I've known since I was a little girl, that I'd have at least some measure of self-confidence in what I know and how I interpret.

It's such a crazy thing, self-esteem. Most days I feel elated and disappointed about my writing, in equal measure. ha!

I also used to think the solution to car ideas was a little mini-tape recorder, but I tried that a few times and it didn't work. Writing and/or typing seems to be the only way to get those things down.

I absolutely cannot use a recorder. Even though the narrative spills out of my head nearly fully-formed, the distraction of my voice just spoils it. Seriously. I can't stand listening to myself, either, which would make transcription cringe-inducing.

I love it when what's not said is as important, if not more important, than what's actually voiced. I adore those kinds of scenes.

oh yes!! I absolutely squee when I've accomplished it.

(You've got me talking about writing. You DO realise what this means, right? ROFL.)

It means HUZZAH!!! hahaha!

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Date: 2010-03-07 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
Hence my freakout when I sit down and realize that the last line sucks.

LOL, exactly. I did that last night, and then this morning my first thought upon opening the document was wow, that's a shitty line. Heh.

Most days I feel elated and disappointed about my writing, in equal measure.

Wildly cycling levels of confidence YAY. Or not yay, really. So far today I've been delighted that I'm actively writing, disappointed that the ficlet isn't going how I'm intended, pleased that at least I'm getting the words out, and paranoid that it'll be the worst thing in the ficathon. ROFL. Narrow it down, brain, please.

the distraction of my voice just spoils it. Seriously. I can't stand listening to myself, either, which would make transcription cringe-inducing.

... That is why it doesn't work for me. =D I hate listening to myself. Which is weird, considering I talk to myself almost constantly when at home alone. It sounds so wrong narrating out loud, though, and it ties into my embarassment squick (uh, I have this issue with reading fanfic out loud, or sometimes even typing it... sometimes in a new fandom I'll use placeholders instead of names for the first couple of fics in their draft state, because my brain is all oh-god-wtf-are-you-writing-now... I can't even explain it); when I talk it out, I do it in vague terms and avoid all proper names. (WTF, I live alone, FFS. Nobody is listening.)

I have issues.

oh yes!! I absolutely squee when I've accomplished it.

The best part is when someone else comes back and says "omg, I noticed this in this scene", because I'm always paranoid that I'm too subtle with the body language and/or atmosphere and that nobody will get it. It confirms that I've done what I set out to do. Sometimes people even notice little links and whatnot that I wasn't aware of and didn't do consciously, but like a piece of writing advice says... always take credit for the good things you didn't intend, because you'll be getting criticism for the bad things you didn't intend. Heh.

It means HUZZAH!!!

It means I will never shut up, is what it means. ROFL.

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Date: 2010-03-07 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Wildly cycling levels of confidence YAY. Or not yay, really. So far today I've been delighted that I'm actively writing, disappointed that the ficlet isn't going how I'm intended, pleased that at least I'm getting the words out, and paranoid that it'll be the worst thing in the ficathon.

A thousand times YES. Holy cow, yes. I always call it a roller coaster because it is exactly that. And sometimes I feel both up and down about it at the same time. It's just...wow.

It sounds so wrong narrating out loud, though, and it ties into my embarassment squick

YES YES YES!! I am absolutely squirming when I try to narrate aloud--I blush like crazy and I turn into a complete stammering idiot. Even when noone is around. I have always wished I could have a Mental Dictation Device to record my stories so that I wouldn't have to worry about typing them out, lol. Because dictating them any other way is just too scary.

The best part is when someone else comes back and says "omg, I noticed this in this scene", because I'm always paranoid that I'm too subtle with the body language and/or atmosphere and that nobody will get it. It confirms that I've done what I set out to do.

YES. I imbed little teeny things in fic all the time, just little things that I think will go unnoticed, and I think they usually do. I'm always tempted to do "DVD commentaries" for my fic because there are so many little things that I want people to notice. ha!

It means I will never shut up, is what it means. ROFL.

Which means...HUZZAH!! lol!

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Date: 2010-03-07 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
And sometimes I feel both up and down about it at the same time.

It still boggles me that it can happen like that... being both elated and annoyed at the same freaking time over the same piece of writing.

I blush like crazy and I turn into a complete stammering idiot. Even when noone is around.

That's exactly it. I cannot figure out why, either. It's like I somehow think I'm being watched, or like someone would overhear; but I dislike the sound of my voice to begin with so that doesn't help, either.

Oh, man, another writing friend and I have joked for years that we need a brain-to-fic hookup right behind the ear. Preferably USB compatible so it can be used with any standard computer. =D

I imbed little teeny things in fic all the time, just little things that I think will go unnoticed, and I think they usually do.

I do that SO MUCH. I'm not sure how much I expect any of it to be noticed; I mean, when I used to write in HP I used to get a lot of comments on my strong atmosphere and details, but I'm still not sure that exactly what I wrote in registered on the level it registers with me. Heh. There's always so much more to a story, in my head, than what I get on paper.

Gah, so much more. Like the ficlet I'm working on today. It's basically an OC, really, and despite the final ficlet likely being super-short (~500 words), I've got her whole childhood and life in my head; I've figured out who she is and what she's looking for and how she interacts with people. I've figured out her flaws. And yet so much of that is just going to be glossed over. I need to know it, though, to be able to write even a fraction of her life.

Which means...HUZZAH!!

=D Hehehehe.

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Date: 2010-03-06 02:19 am (UTC)
marginaliana: Buddy the dog carries Bobo the toy (Default)
From: [personal profile] marginaliana
That's so interesting - for me, I find that if I dwell too much in the space of the story, then I don't want to write it, because it's always better in my head than it could ever be on the page. I have to start writing and let the story take me. Which isn't to say that I can't write scenes mentally while I'm away from the computer and then get them typed out later, but I can't let myself wallow in a story moment or else I lose the ability to write it.

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Date: 2010-03-06 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
ooh! This totally reminds me of another entry I've been meaning to write, about the Ideal Fic in my head, and how it comes out differently on the page, and then I hate the page fic and wish I had written the Ideal Fic, and then later it dissipates and I'm left with the page fic, and then I can't remember the Ideal Fic so I'm a lot more satisfied with the page fic.

I mean, I'll make the entry a lot more understandable, but still, I do get what you're saying. hee!

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Date: 2010-03-06 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
... I am totally butting in on a thread here, but IDEAL FIC YES. This is why I'm so much more satisfied with some of my HP and squared-circle fics several months/years after I write them--I forget what I'd wanted for them in the first place, and can read them as they are, instead of seeing what they should (ha) be.

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Date: 2010-03-06 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm so impressed that you made sense out of that paragraph! haha! But yeah, that is EXACTLY what I mean. There's this fic that I wrote for Riptide, and it's this angsty fic, and in my head it was...wow. On the paper, I thought it was okay.

But now that I've forgotten the wow in my head, I read it on paper and think, hey, this is really good! lol.

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Date: 2010-03-07 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] idleleaves.livejournal.com
This is the prime reason I think I need to learn to set my stories aside when I've finished them, at least for a couple of weeks, but I always give in to the OMG FINISHED MUST POST urge.

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Date: 2010-03-06 11:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] todayiamadaisy
Your idea of staying in the story space instead makes perfect sense, and I understand what you mean about not writing 1000 words of rubbish a day. But I wonder if it was my job - as in, my only job that I needed to pay the bills - if I would feel differently. As a chronic procrastinator who needs deadlines to force myself to do things, I can see how writing a certain number of *usable* words per day would act as a self-enforced deadline. That's how I used to write essays. :-)

There was a similar sort of 'writers on writing' article in the The Guardian online the other day, if you're interested.

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Date: 2010-03-06 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm terrible about deadlines, you see. I'm a horrible procrastinator, but if someone (or even myself) tells myself that I must write x words a day, my first impulse is to shout, "I won't!" like a two year old. So it's better for me to just sneak in the words and get excited later. ha!

Oh yes, I saw that article! There was so much food for thought. And again I remember thinking--writing is as individual as writers. lol!

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Date: 2010-03-06 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iibnf.livejournal.com
I think I'm somewhere between the two. Although I totally agree with you - I have to be in the right place/frame of mind/have a well percolated idea before I can write, I also have to force myself to sit and write otherwise I do everything else instead. Except that even sitting/forcing doesn't work, I just stare at the screen sometimes.

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Date: 2010-03-06 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yes, I can't force myself to write, almost at all. It's pretty insane. I actually get pissy at myself. So instead I have to sneak up on it, like work on eBay listings and then suddenly pop over to the fic and add a few lines, and before you know it, I've written 1000 words. ha!

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Date: 2010-03-08 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
It works the same for me: I have to stay in touch with my story and I have to take notes.

Some people connect by thinking about the characters, making small notes, or large notes or no notes at all. And others do connect by writing, even if they write "nonsense", the nonsense being what the first group of authors goes through only in their mind. It's not that you have to produce 1000 perfect words. I see it more like thinking and playing on the page.

I think it's not necessary to take the 1000 words literally if they don't work - it's more important to spend some time every day with your characters and their story - either in your head or on the page.

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Date: 2010-03-09 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
It's not that you have to produce 1000 perfect words. I see it more like thinking and playing on the page.

Yeah, I totally get that some people really benefit from this, but it's almost impossible for me to do. It's actually frustrating and makes me think I could be writing something I actually want to read instead. ha!

I think it's not necessary to take the 1000 words literally if they don't work - it's more important to spend some time every day with your characters and their story - either in your head or on the page.

Absolutely. I could not agree more--it is much more important for me to spend time in that space and resonate with the story. *nodnod*

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Date: 2010-03-09 07:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hardboiledbaby
Wow, this is so interesting.

So what I've brought away from this is that it's good to dwell in the space each day. If I don't, the story suffers. However, the other important lesson is that if I don't jot down a few notes, I will not remember the space, and that lovely feeling and set of thoughts will disappear.

So true. I have awful short-term memory. If I don't write something down RIGHT NAOW, it goes away, sometimes for good. :( OTOH, once captured, my notes can usually put me back in the space, even after a lengthy period.

I agree that writing X number of words just for the helluvit is not productive, but I will say, though, that flash fic to stimulate creativity has been very useful to me. It's helped me to curb my tendency to edit as I write (one of my big problems), and has given me some wonderful plot bunnies, that I've then worked into longer pieces. ("Longer" is, of course, relative. *G*)

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Date: 2010-03-09 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
So true. I have awful short-term memory. If I don't write something down RIGHT NAOW, it goes away, sometimes for good. :( OTOH, once captured, my notes can usually put me back in the space, even after a lengthy period.

This is absolutely one hundred percent how I function as well. I am always saying that unless I write it down, I'm going to forget it. And it's sooooo true.

I agree that writing X number of words just for the helluvit is not productive, but I will say, though, that flash fic to stimulate creativity has been very useful to me. It's helped me to curb my tendency to edit as I write (one of my big problems), and has given me some wonderful plot bunnies, that I've then worked into longer pieces. ("Longer" is, of course, relative. *G*)

I've definitely found benefit in trying to write teensy fic and drabbles and such. They're inspiring, and sometimes it's nice to craft something small. Reminds you of how important each word is. But I just can't get behind the writing-1000-words-each-day thing. Just kind of makes me squirm.

And I can't wait to read your new stuff!! eeee!

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Date: 2010-03-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariannelee.livejournal.com
This makes so much sense to me. As for 1000 words, I write so slowly that I don't have time to do that. But what's important is the habit, for me at least. I don't have that, so I don't write. And that's also where having a time of day that's writing time helps.

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Date: 2010-03-10 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm terrible about some habits. I just can't force myself to do some things. I can have a nice glass of chai every morning, but I can't make myself write. I have this weird aversion to making myself do anything. lol!

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Date: 2010-03-27 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdenia.livejournal.com
This is totally fascinating. I'm adding it to my "writing" memories. :P :D

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Date: 2010-04-01 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Awesome!! Glad to be of use!

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