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While I was driving I had this thought about Snapefic.

Dogma 95 was a set of rules meant to revitalize artistic filmmaking. There were several rules, including using only natural light sources, no filters, no music unless it naturally occurred during filming, hand-held cameras, etc. (About Dogma 95 and Rules of Dogma 95)

I was thinking, wouldn't it be fun to have a set of rules like that for writing Snapefic? You know, post a set of "Vows" and promise to uphold them.

So of course my Snape-obsessed brain would not leave the idea alone and all weekend I kept thinking of vows.



In the interest of preserving a high quality level of Snape fanfiction, I propose this set of Vows for myself.

When writing Snape!fic, I promise:
  • ...to keep his physical appearance as close to canon as possible. Greasy hair, thin fingers, yellow skin, yellow/crooked teeth, yeah, yeah, yeah.

  • ...to garb him in black robes. Dare I even say billowing black robes? Oh, yes.

  • ...to keep talents and weaknesses as verified in canon. Gifted at Occlumency? Check. Legilimens? Check. Talented at potions? Check. Bitter about the Marauders? Check. Suspicious? Check.

  • ...to keep his dry wit and dark sarcasm.

  • ...to explore the possibilities that canon leaves open for me.

  • ...to keep his background plausible.

  • ...to keep his control tightly wound, except in moments of true, unrelenting stress relating to his childhood.

  • ...to make his relationships with other teachers believable.

  • ...to remember how much he wanted that Order of Merlin in PoA.

  • ...to incorporate canon truths as much as possible into my fanfiction writing.


When writing Snape!fic, I will not:
  • ...make him wear a 'glamour' that disguises his True Beauty because otherwise he'd have to whack the students with sticks to get them away from him.

  • ...make him smell like some inordinately sweet and intoxicating scent just so the Love Interest can catch a whiff and swoon.

  • ...force him into Muggle clothes.

  • ...make him into a vampire or dhampiel. Or even a quarter-vampire. Or an angel. Or a demon.

  • ...suddenly give him a son/daughter that enrolls in Hogwarts. (Surprise, dad!)

  • ...render him speechless because my OC said something to him that I thought was "witty".

  • ...make him a virgin with Astonishing Sexual Powers.

  • ...give him dialogue that sounds as if he's swallowed a thesaurus. He speaks well, certainly, but not that well. He uses contractions. Honest.

  • ...give him strange Muggle hobbies like playing Brahms lullabies on a harpsichord.

  • ...give him telepathic powers or a "life-bond" or a "love-bond" or a "soul-bond" with another.

  • ...have a perky OFC 'win him over' with her excessive good cheer or her feisty spunky attitude.

  • ...give him a ridiculously angsty background replete with physical abuse and torture.

  • ...give him Snape Manor, complete with more trappings and more wealth than even Lucius Malfoy can imagine.

  • ...give him a ridiculous family tree. Dumbledore will not be his grandfather. Voldemort will not be his grandfather. He will not be related to Harry Potter. He will not be a special magical Heir to anything.
  • ...give him any special mysterious magical item that does not fit into the canon world. He will not possess some sort of amazing object that has been passed down through generations from Salazar himself.

  • ...make him an expert in martial arts or weapons.

  • ...make him fluffy, yearning, and sweet without a Personality-Changing Potion.

  • ...have him perform a non-consensual sexual act with an OFC and then later that evening...or ever, actually...have them fall in love.

  • ...bring an American OFC to Hogwarts for little reason other than to have her become Snape's One True Love.

  • ...make him speak of his shortcomings and weaknesses without Veritaserum, or a prolonged relationship first.

  • ...have any elves wandering about Hogwarts except for house-elves. There will be no Elf or Half-elf teacher mysteriously joining the staff.

  • ...have an attractive Muggle Studies or DADA teacher who makes Snape's brain melt due to her overwhelming loveliness.

  • ...write a storyline where he kills Voldemort.

  • ...give him a mysterious power that isn't supported in canon. No fireballs from his fingertips. No telekinesis.

  • ...be tempted to turn his private chambers into a Slytherin Love Boudoir complete with giant round rotating bed and disco ball.



Disclaimer: I'm certain that I can't be the first person to have thought of this; I just thought it would be fun.

Even More Important Disclaimer: And yes, I realize that meaningful, moving, and funny Snape!fics can be and have been written, absolutely, disregarding all of these Vows at once. These are just my Vows...disregard them as you wish!

Vows of your own? Comment and share.

Darn! I broke the rules!

Date: 2005-03-28 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerynstales.livejournal.com
Um...okay...for your don'ts...gulp. Sorry, I can't agree with all of them. Heh. Honestly, I am of the opinion that anything is possible if you explain it, build it up, and lead in correctly. No, some American chickie is not going to make his mouth drop open or be his true love on first sight. Cuz frankly...never going to really happen with anyone. However, I can say right off that 4-5 of the ones you have mentioned...we've done or will be doing. Sorry...and yes, written in a list such as that, sound super cheesy. However, if given the right conditions and circumstances...why not?

Example. Your Number One...the glamour. Yes, Snape is no beauty queen, and will never be. However, in [livejournal.com profile] lfire1 and I's fic, he does use a glamour. Why? Because he is a death eater (and a spy for Dumbledore) but still, a death eater...and can't exactly be seen dating or cavorting with a Muggle...now can he? So, he decides to create a new look (very unrecognizable...he's even blond!) and voice just so he can take his lady love out. He doesn't want to see her cooped up all the time, and he takes pride that he's got a good looking (if sometimes un-understandable and annoying...and hot headed) woman. Yes, this starts after they get together, yes, she's aware, and yes...she hates it and prefers his normal appearance. Um...the Muggle clothes fit here too...it's all disguise.

We also keep the movie outfit...sorry...love the buttons too much! And, we have him smell like sage...why? It's a potions ingrediant, and figure it's rather ingraned. Of course, that's not to say he doesn't stink some days too...after all, Neville is in his class. :)

Um...yeah...our Muggle Muggle Studies teacher...she makes his brain melt...but seriously, only after making him clinically depressed first! Love can be a right bitch. Especially when one party is a committmentphobe (her...not him!)...but she's rather attractive and round in all the right places. Heh...

Um...he's fluffy and sweet to her...and her only. And no...he doesn't express it in front of others (um...I don't think he does...). Well, okay...in the disguise he does. But to be fair, he has to behave very un-Snape like so no one suspects (did I mention our gal hates this...she likes the snide, sarcastic, un-overly emotional Snape.).

Like I said, there's a big one that has only begun to happen in our fic (and our readers will be able to point it out), so I'm not going to go into explanations yet. However, all will be revealed on the why and how on it.

So in short (cuz this was long), I think you can do what you like with the character (no m-preg though...that's just dumb...yes...I said dumb) within reason, and with a heafty dose of explanation. I think our Snape is still Snape and believable. He went throught around 60 chapters (Life for Rent and Fallen combined) to get where he is now, and his decisions are based off of that. And I don't think he could be considered less Snape than too many others (did I mention no m-preg?).

And to conclude, cuz I know you mentioned to me, Valis, that you worried that people may feel offended (and I'm so not!), yes...these are your vows. I have my own as well. I think Snape can be written in a variety of ways and pairings (many out there I do not agree with...but hey, more power to you if you can pull it off!)...no one is ever going to agree with another's interpretation 100%...but hey, where would the fun be in that!

That's all...everyone go back to your regularly scheduled programmes...

~Aeryn

Re: Darn! I broke the rules!

Date: 2005-03-28 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I knew you would be awesome about this! :) Yeah, it's exactly as you say...everyone's rules are different! We all have our own set based on our own interpretation. Like yours includes "no MPREG". Canon can be somewhat flexible, and we all have to adapt it as best we can!

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Date: 2005-03-28 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrysantza.livejournal.com
I'm a Lupin fangirl myself, so I can just vow that I will a) respect his relationship with Sirius as a FRIENDship and b) never write him as pregnant.

I hate MPREG anyway. Where is the baby going to grow? Where is the baby going to come OUT? Might I ask.

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Date: 2005-03-28 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm beginning to become a Lupin fangirl too...cover your ears, Severus!...

MPREG isn't my cup of tea, either. I forgot to include it, and I almost never read them, though, honestly, anything can work if you really put your brain to it, I think. Though some things have a much higher wall to scale (Mpreg, bringing Sirius back, etc.).

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Date: 2005-03-28 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysduende.livejournal.com
Here, Here! To everything said. Though I must say, I will miss the frock coat. *shrugs sheepishly*

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Date: 2005-03-28 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Yes, and I already broke that rule for the TPMM story about unbuttoning Snape...hee.

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Date: 2005-03-28 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] installmentplan.livejournal.com
THANK YOU. That is all.

You are now invited to join the SEKRIT CANON!SNAPE COUNCIL OF DOOOOOOOOOOM. Meetings are in a hidden fortress near the North Pole and we alternate who brings the cookies. ;D.

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Date: 2005-03-28 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
*begins baking white chocolate chunk & macadamia cookies*

Do I have to bring a sacrificial victim to first Council I attend?

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Date: 2005-03-28 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kleio-the-muse.livejournal.com
Hear, hear! Except I've already broken too many of them to join you on your vows *g* Do agree with most of them, though:)

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Date: 2005-03-28 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Oh, I've broken a few too...just thought it would a fun exercise. ;)

Your icon! They make such cute love bunnies...

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Date: 2005-03-28 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eloisasnape.livejournal.com
give him dialogue that sounds as if he's swallowed a thesaurus

Bwhaha! Sorry that just had me in stitches for some reason.

Yip, I've done a few on the don't list as well *hangs head in shame*

And yes, I realize that meaningful, moving, and funny Snape!fics can be and have been written, absolutely, disregarding all of these Vows at once.

In my recent plagiarized humour fic, i like to think that i somehow kept Snape as near to canon as possible. Maybe I'm just delusional, I'd be interested to see what other people think. Would it be possible to post it at [livejournal.com profile] quirkyhpshorts specifically for opinions on that point? Its just over 3000 words and I know you like them to be kept under 2000.

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Date: 2005-03-28 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-and-umbra.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] valis2 has the say on [livejournal.com profile] quirkyhpshorts but as a FYI, if the story's of slashy nature, there's also [livejournal.com profile] hphumor.

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Date: 2005-03-28 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-and-umbra.livejournal.com
No fireballs from his fingertips.

Because we all know his balls of fire are located elsewhere. *rimshot*

I'm tempted to write a story where Snape's bedchamber Slytherin Love Boudoir has not only a rotating water bed and a disco ball, but also mirrors in the ceiling and a hidden speaker system playing Barry White on constant loop. Oh! And mustn't forget the bottle of Dom that's always on ice.

My vows? You covered so many of the essentials that I can't think of many to add.

I will not...
* ... make him wear frock coats.
* ... make him quote Byron, Eliot, or Nietzsche.
* ... make him wear leather trousers. This includes dragonhide and the skins of other mysterious magical creatures. (Though Kneazle-fur bermuda shorts would be kinda rad.)
* ... turn him into a fluffy lover, no matter how many heavenly cymbal players his Night o' Love with Harry/Lupin/Dobby inspires.
* ... ignore his obvious hang-ups and his tendency to abuse CAPS LOCK on (very rare) occasion.
* ... forget that he is a Slytherin in speech, ethics, and manner alike.

Great post. Had the gigglies. ;)

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Date: 2005-03-28 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com
... forget that he is a Slytherin in speech, ethics, and manner alike.

'Course, then you raise the interesting problem that what seems to be oh-so-reasonable ideas for general Slytherin behavior to some comes off as ridiculously pretentious pseudo-aristocratic seekrit pureblood Traditions to others who note that if the Slytherins actually had all that going on, they'd never have time for things like going to class.

Remember, kids. Friends don't let friends write aristo-Slytherin fic.

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Date: 2005-03-28 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snapesforte.livejournal.com
Pardon me while I fan girl you for life. :) This is brilliant, and I am pleased to say that I have done all the 'do's'. Very pleased.

I really must read your super-long Snapefic now. Where is it?

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Date: 2005-03-28 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
You want to read it? Wow! *crosses fingers that you like it*

I'm warning you...it is SS/OFC...

It's archived in three places.

At SycophHex here is my author profile (http://occlumency.sycophanthex.com/viewuser.php?uid=179) but I think you still have to log in to read it. Easiest way to find it is to look up valis2 at Occlumency. (There aren't a lot of v's.)

At FictionAlley my author profile is here (http://www.thedarkarts.org/authorLinks/Valis2/).

At fictionnet my author profile is here (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1764373/1/).

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Date: 2005-03-28 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] privatemaladict.livejournal.com
...make him wear a 'glamour' that disguises his True Beauty because otherwise he'd have to whack the students with sticks to get them away from him.

... you know, I could write a parody based on that.

...give him strange Muggle hobbies like playing Brahms lullabies on a harpsichord.

Aww, really? How about Bach on a church organ? (Now there's a bad joke waiting to happen...)

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Date: 2005-03-28 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
... you know, I could write a parody based on that.

I've seen it used as a device, and I must say, I prefer my Snape canonically based and unattractive.

I admit to guilt

Date: 2005-03-28 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bell-witch.livejournal.com
And I refuse to be sorry about it.

I've done a couple of the 'Don'ts' and I freely admit it. Whether or not I did it well is up to others to judge.

I also can't be sure that I kept Snape's relationship with another teacher (namely Lupin) believable. Why? Because, in my opinion, any story that has Snape romantically paired with anyone at all goes into the realm of AU. If canon Snape has sex, we're never going to hear about it, and I really don't want to know.

I also think my Snape will generally wear something under his robes, at least in the wintertime. I can't picture Hogwarts robes as being like the heavy stuff they wear in the Middle East, which would be perfectly comfortable with nothing underneath. That's my visualisation process, though. I need to be able to 'see' or 'hear' it for it to work for me.

Humour can be anything, especially deliberate Badfic, which I love.

If I ever have Snape wear muggle clothes, I better have a good reason.

I also hesitate on Snape's vocabulary. I think he uses big words around people, students, in order to belittle them. I use a lot of strange words in my regular speech, so I don't feel qualified to judge Snape's vocab, really. And contractions...(insert Lina Lamont voice here) "Don't everybody?"

Good cheer winning Snape over...I don't that would ever happen in anything I'd ever write. I feel a Badfic coming on...Running away.

Re: I admit to guilt

Date: 2005-03-28 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
And I refuse to be sorry about it. I've done a couple of the 'Don'ts' and I freely admit it. Whether or not I did it well is up to others to judge.

:) These were my rules, so don't worry about it! You have your own rules, obviously. As you've mentioned, you wouldn't want Good cheer winning Snape over, so there you go!

Yes, and humor!fics are exempt from the rules...though they should know 'em, at least!

Broken rules- or are they?

Date: 2005-03-28 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dphearson.livejournal.com
1. I find men with Big noses and olive skin attractive. And oily is what it is. When I describe Snape, it is using those same descriptors, but I make who ever he is with see that there is a sort of attractiveness there, as well as greasy hair.

2. I use costumes from the movies and the books.

3. For Severus to have anything to do with anyone they must be able to put up, shut up or break down his bullshit.

4. No siper-duper powers- that's for the suckers like Harry and Sirius who are destined to be offed by Voldie and the gang. No, Severus is an ordinary Wizard, who works pretty damn hjard, and at the end of the day, will be standing.

Re: Broken rules- or are they?

Date: 2005-03-28 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Your #1 is oh so perfect.

Your #3 makes me tear up. Honestly. That is absolutely the key to a "relationship" with him.

No, Severus is an ordinary Wizard, who works pretty damn hjard, and at the end of the day, will be standing.

I am crossing my fingers and hoping beyond hope that you are correct here. I don't know if I could read book 7 if he wasn't involved somehow.

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Date: 2005-03-28 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomspectator.livejournal.com
*worships*

Agreed, on all points, though I do have a worrying fondness for frock coats and boudoirs. I know it's wrong, I known it flys in the face of canon, but yet I find myself yearning for tapered sleeves and buttons...

*repents for crimes against the vows*

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Date: 2005-03-28 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Hey, I violated my own frock coat Vow already (here (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2219560/1/)), so I understand completely. *grins*

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Date: 2005-03-29 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imkalena.livejournal.com
...to keep his dry wit and dark sarcasm.

Keeping in mind, of course, that the wittiest, most sarcastic thing he said in the entirety of OotP was, " . . . and speaking of dogs . . ." -- which, um, magically sent Sirius into a frenzy. It had to be magic, 'cause it wasn't knife-edged wit that flayed him.

I worried about my ability to write His Dark Sarcastic Wittiness until I did a little rereading and realized it's . . . fanon. I love Snape, and I love people's Witty!Snape, don't get me wrong -- and the wittier, the better. But in canon, he's no wizard with words.

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Date: 2005-03-29 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I have to argue with you, at least a little. No, he's not Byron, you're absolutely correct. But he is definitely sarcastic and witty at times.

I'll just quote a few of his lines that seem to me to contain sarcasm/wit:

'Just the man,' he said. 'The very man. A girl has been snatched by the monster, Lockhart. Taken into the Chamber of Secrets itself. Your moment has come at last.'

'Mr. Malfoy then saw an extraordinary apparition. Can you imagine what it might have been, Potter?"
' No,' said Harry, now trying to sound innocently curious.
' It was your head, Potter. Floating in mid-air.'

'Ron gave them to me,' said Harry, praying he'd get a chance to tip Ron off before Snape saw him. 'He - brought them back from Hogsmeade last time -'
'Indeed? And you've been carrying them round ever since? How very touching...'

'He [Ron] forced Hermione to show Snape her teeth - she was doing her best to hide them with her hands, though this was difficult as they had now gone past her collar. Pansy Parkinson and other Slytherin girls were doubled up with silent giggles, pointing at Hermione from behind Snape's back.
Snape looked coldly at Hermione, then said, 'I see no difference.'

'Tell me, Potter,' said Snape softly, 'can you read?'

'I am here on Dumbledore's orders,' said Snape, whose voice by contrast [to Black's], was becoming more and more quietly waspish, 'but by all means stay, Black, I know how you like to feel...involved.'

'How touching,' Snape sneered. 'But surely you have noticed that Potter is very like his father?'
'Yes, I have,' said Sirius proudly.
'Well then, you'll know he's so arrogant that criticism simply bounces off him,' said Snape sleekly.

'Are you calling me a coward?' roared Sirius, trying to push Harry out of the way, but Harry would not budge.
'Why, yes, I suppose I am,' said Snape.

'...The mind is a complex and many-layered thing, Potter - or at least, most minds are.'

Danger lies before you, while safety lies behind,
Two ofus will help you, whichever you would find,
One among us seven will let you move ahead,
Another will transport the drinker back instead,
Two among our number hold only nettle wine,
Three of us are killers, waiting hidden in line.
Choose, unless you wish to stay here forevermore,
To help you in your choice, we give you these clues four:
First, however slyly the poison tries to hide
You will always find some on nettle wine's lef side;
Second, different are those who stand at either end,
But if you would move onward, neither is your friend;
Third, as you see clearly, all are different size,
Neither dwarf nor giant holds death in their insides;
Fourth, the second left and the second on the right
Are twins once you taste them, though different at first sight.


And my two favorites:

'Potter, when I want nonsense shouted at me I shall give you a Babbling Beverage. And Crabbe, loosen your hold a little, if Longbottom suffocates it will mean a lot of tedious paperwork, and I am afraid I shall have to mention it on your reference if every you apply for a job.

'I don't expect you will really understand this is magic. I don't expect you will really understand the beauty of the softly simmering cauldron with its shimmering fumes, the delicate power of liquids that creep through human veins, bewitching the mind, ensnaring the senses...I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death---if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach.'
'Tut, tut---fame clearly isn't everything.'


With thanks to [livejournal.com profile] snapesforte and Designer Potions (http://www.designerpotions.com/ss/index.html)

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Date: 2005-03-29 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musigneus.livejournal.com
The promises are amusing, but it was the will-nots that I found hilarious. Scarily enough, I seem to remember fics featuring almost all of those...

Er, that would be multiple fics, not all in a single fic - although admittedly that is tempting ;).

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Date: 2005-03-29 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I can't imagine one fic with all the will-nots...it would be the cover story to [livejournal.com profile] deleterius.

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Date: 2005-03-29 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com
What, no Death Eater Disco? That's no fun!

*cues up "Saturday Night Fever" on Lucius Malfoy's wireless*

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Date: 2005-03-29 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
*breaks out the magical turntable and the Village People albums*

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Date: 2005-03-29 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cantatrix05.livejournal.com
I think I might have to print this out and keep it in my writing journal for reference. All of your points are spot on except... I can't think of Snape as out and out ugly. He's the weird geeky kid who grew up to overcompensate and make the rest of them PAY! But not ugly. Not canon, I know. Too bad. I went for 34 out of 35.

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Date: 2005-03-29 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
No matter how greasy, yellow, and snaggly-toothed he gets, I retain some level of lustlove for him.

You're absolutely right...he definitely has that "I'll get you for this!" going on.

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Date: 2005-03-29 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stellahobbit.livejournal.com
Wonderful list! I'll try my best to stick to it (although I can promise right now you'll never see 'perky' nor 'American exchange student' in my fics ;-) I did make him into a vampire, but it was because of evil Voldie, and Severus didn't enjoy the experience at all.

Have added this to my memories of funny stuff.

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Date: 2005-03-29 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Hee! See, you'll end up making your own list...that's what it's all about! Glad you liked it enough to add it to your memories.

The vampire subplot sounds interesting...recently in the Giant Fic I had him become afraid that he had been turned by Voldemort...

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Date: 2005-03-29 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aramintasnape.livejournal.com
...be tempted to turn his private chambers into a Slytherin Love Boudoir complete with giant round rotating bed and disco ball

LOL! I haven't done this one, but I plead guilty to a few of the others!

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Date: 2005-03-29 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I'm beginning to think that it might be kind of fun to break this particular Vow...hee!

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Date: 2005-03-29 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amandasaitou.livejournal.com
OKay, Valis, this is interesting... I like Snape in canon as well, but how could I write my adorable Harry/ Snape fics without making him out of canon? WEll, sometimes I manage to keep him in canon, even having him in love with Harry, but it's not that easy, and to tell you the truth, not that much fun as well. But you've come up with a good list of in canon and ooc itens, that I even recorded them for further thought about it! ;)
Anyways, it was a pleasure to meet your journal (thanks to Ptyx for that one)!

Amanda

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Date: 2005-03-29 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
WEll, sometimes I manage to keep him in canon, even having him in love with Harry, but it's not that easy, and to tell you the truth, not that much fun as well.

Hey, nearly anything is plausible. I've read several excellent Snarry fics where they've definitely done their research and worked hard to make the premise work, and well.

It's all in the hands of the writer, after all. I don't think a relationship between Snape and Harry is plausible in canon, honestly, but I'll say that it's highly improbable, and then the writer has to scale that wall first and convince the readers, unless it's a PWP or something.

Thanks for stopping by! I had no idea that Ptyx mentioned it...will have to send thanks.

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Date: 2005-04-06 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virgofolkie.livejournal.com
Oops! I've been fantasizing about the Snape telepathy thing (i.e. the vow that "I will not: ...give him telepathic powers or a "life-bond" or a "love-bond" or a "soul-bond" with another"). I also recently posted my first Snapefic effort, featuring myself (yikes!) as the OFC, at [livejournal.com profile] do_me_profsnape --I am probably the "American OFC (a guest researcher, in this case, not a student or teacher) who becomes Snape's best friend" kind of character. I'm mainly a songwriter and original short-story writer; I've never written HP fanfiction before this in my life, and I don't think I yet know what I'm doing in that area. This simply points to the fact that I really need to join the Snape-writer's support LJ that this post is linked to, posthaste!!

Thanks for this article; it could be quite helpful to me in future fanfic attempts...

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Date: 2005-04-07 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Glad you read it...and about the Snape telepathy thing...if you're interested in that, write it! These are my vows, they don't have to be yours! *grins*

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Date: 2005-04-06 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearle9240.livejournal.com
Well, I agree with most all of what you've listed as Dogma. Of your 'do' list, I think I manage at least nine out of ten, in my longer stories. The short one-shots are usually written for laughs, or a specific challenge. I usually don't focus on his looks. I figure he looks as the books describe him, no need to keep belittling the point. I have described his robes as billow menacingly on several occasions (it tends to be a great image).

On to your 'don't' list. I think I've complied with pretty much all - except the kid at Hogwarts. But in my defense, that was the focus of the story. Not knowing he had a daughter and not wanting her when Hermione showed up. Though if you know of a story featuring the Slytherin Love Boudoir, I could be persuaded to read it.

Now I'll add a condition of my own. I like a good PWP just as much as the next person, but when writing an involved story, it annoys me when Snape and anyone fall into bed in Chapter one of a multi chapter fic - unless that was the purpose, I like a little plot with my story. Snape and female (Hermione, whoever) eye one another, and an hour later they have incredible mind blowing sex. For hours. Several times. All night. AND in the morning. I have been guilty of having them have a go at each other more than once, but it took seventeen chapters and an established relationship to get there!

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Date: 2005-04-07 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
I, too, am now fascinated by the Slytherin Love Boudoir concept...hee!

I totally agree about the falling-into-bed thing...I really can't see it happening, except in a one-shot/PWP scenario/humor story.

Then again, I've gone way too far the other way...sixty-six chapters and still nary a kiss. *sigh*

Hehe

Date: 2005-04-08 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelruse.livejournal.com
Very good. ;) Nice guidelines, though I do think non-canon can work if done er...tastefully and plausibly. *innocent* ;D Mmmmm...hehehehehehe. A virgin with astonishing sexual powers. *giggles* ;D Some people.

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Date: 2005-04-09 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valis2.livejournal.com
Oh, I think non-canon holds wonderful possibilities, definitely! I've seen some amazing fics break many of these rules...these are just my own, and I had fun listing them for myself, and thought, what the hell, I'll share them too.

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